我总是被人生的两极困扰 So I'm always caught in that dichotomy
到底是过程最有意思 Is the journey the most thrilling part of it,
还是所谓的终点 Or is it,I say end result,
我觉得人永远达不到终点 I don't think you ever get to an end result.
你只是花费一定时间 You get to a result as close as you can get,
达到一个尽可能终极的目标 in the time that you need to get it.
我觉得你如果有一定的好奇心 And I think if you have a lot of curiosity
就永远也不会觉得你彻底完成了一段旅程 You kind of never feel like you've completed any journey
因为你总是在改变路线 Because you're always changing trains
然后不知不觉中 走向另一个目的地 And you're always,without knowing it,on some other destination
真是个难题 It's a conundrum
听译
四 七 酱
注释
四 七 酱
校对
四 七 酱
时间轴
云中漫步wfaith
特效
云中漫步wfaith
压制
云中漫步wfaith
在我看来利昂就像一只蛾子 I thought about Leon as a moth
飞蛾扑火 被火焰所吸引而烧掉自己翅膀的蛾子 That was attracted to the flame that causes the moth to burn its own wings off
斯坦利•库布里克是如此耀眼 Stanley Kubrick was an incredibly bright light
他的魅力如此强大 吸引利昂就这样被他的光芒灼烧 His seductiveness was strong enough for Leon to be burnedby Stanley's light
看《2001:太空漫游》时我刚离开戏剧学校 I'd seen 2001 just after I left drama school
我当时想 这真是我看过最伟大的电影 and I just thought it was the greatest movie I'd ever seen
后来因为是斯坦利•库布里克出品 我也去看了《发条橙》 And I went to see Clockwork Orange because it was Stanley Kubrick
看到像马尔科姆•麦克道威尔的演出 When I was watching the performances like Malcolm McDowell
如此大气 放肆 It was so big,so bold
我觉得 这就是在电影媒介中 最接近戏剧表演的体现了 And I thought,this is as close as you get to a theatrical kind of performance on film,
而且很融洽 And it makes sense
作为一个演员 能够那样呈现饱满多元的情感 真好 And how wonderful for an actor to be able to come on and give that whole,broad feeling
制片及导演
斯坦利•库布里克
电影结束后 我转身对一起来的人说 When the film finished,I turned to the person I was actually watching it with
我想为这个人工作 And I said "I want to work for that man"
一字不差 我当时就说"我想为这个人工作" That's exactly what I said,"I want to work for that man"
我曾侍候过库布里克
利昂•维塔利
我很幸运 一直都有戏可演 I was lucky because I never didn't work
演过戏剧 电视剧 舞台剧 英国广播公司的作品 I was doing theater,television,prestige costume dramas,BBC...
吓到你了吧 I shocked you didn't I?
也参与过只演一场的话剧 几部电影 有些警匪片 I was doing one-off plays,couple of movies,there were cop dramas...
他们怎么会想来？我住在城市外围 Why should they want to? I live in the outskirt of town
完全是郊区 Middle of suburbia
当时各种风格的影视作品 我好像都演过 I think I did every single one of them that was being done at the time
你也没法让她起死回生不是吗！多管闲事的混蛋！ Not gonna bring her back to life again are you? You interfering bastard
事发当晚你有到过那个仓库附近吗？ Were you on the night in question anywhere near that warehouse?
我没有！ No no no!
我演过情景喜剧 I was doing sitcoms
社会风气剧变时我就在伦敦 I was in London when everything was changing
当时我觉得可以按自己喜欢的方式去生活 去做自己 I thought I could be,and do,and behave the way I wanted to
让我大松一口气 It was a huge relief for me
我能陪你一起去吗？ May I come with you?
我的一位经纪人听说库布里克在准备拍新片 One of my agents had actually heard that Stanley Kubrick was doing a new production
他给我安排了试镜 这部片子就是《巴里•林登》 And he organized an audition for me,and it was a film called Barry Lyndon
利昂•维塔利
《巴里•林登》带妆试镜
试镜前斯坦利把样本发给大家 在我那份的封面上 Stanley had the tapes sent to you,and on the front of mine,when it came
有一个小纸条 我后来才知道那是他亲手写的 It had a little note which had,what I later understood,to be Stanley's handwriting
写的是"把这些台词背熟" Which was "learn these lines"
当斯坦利•库布里克这种级别的人告诉你 背熟台词 And when someone like Stanley Kubrick tells you to learn your lines
你肯定诚惶诚恐地背好 You learn your lines.
电话来了 A phone call came through
是我的经纪人跟我说 你拿到斯坦利•库布里克新片的角色啦 And my agent told me"you've got the role in Stanley Kubrick's picture"
天啊 当时我都灵魂出窍了 Oh my head was somewhere out there
感谢上苍 Thanks oh great ones
我接到一个电话 说"请你六点钟到白鹿酒店来" I got a telephone call,it said "you should be at the White Hart Hotel at 6 o'clock,"
"斯坦利想要见你" "because Stanley wants to meet you."
我站在酒店大堂 And I was standing in the hotel foyer
突然感觉到有人轻轻拍我的肩膀 我转过身 And I suddenly,there was this little tap on my shoulder,I turned around.
他说 你好利昂 我是斯坦利 我们握了手 He said "Hi Leon,I'm Stanley". And we shook hands
我跟你说 And I have to tell you something
斯坦利的握手非常温暖 柔和 When you shook hands with Stanley,it was warm and gentle
会给你全身带来一阵暖意 Just like a buzz went through you
选自《巴里•林登》
开机第一天时 我超乎意料的紧张 On the first shooting day,I was a little surprised at myself
不知道接下来会发生什么 At how nervous I actually felt about what was going to happen
他拿着一副单筒望远镜 然后说"来18个吧" He was given a long tube,and he said "put an eighteen on"
我当时没懂他意思 Now I didn't know what that meant
然后他把望远镜举到眼前 对我说 But then he put it up to his eye and said:
"好了利昂 开演 就像真的拍摄时那样去全力演" "Ok Leon,action,and do it the way you think you're gonna do it,"
"我不想要那种保留精力给实拍的彩排" "I don't want any of this kind of 'saving up for the take'"
于是我们就开工了 他四处走动 用望远镜四处张望 And so,we kicked off. He was wandering around,he was looking through this tube
一会贴到你眼前来 一会又站远了 He was getting up close,he was standing far back,
一会站梯子上 一会单膝跪地 Standing on a step ladder,down on his knee.
然后他换个镜头 我们就得又重复整个过程 And then he changed lenses and we'd go through the whole process again.
每次我都得从头开始 And each time I'd have to start from the beginning
一遍又一遍地演我的部分 And keep saying it,keep saying it,keep saying it.
最后我们终于准备真正开拍了 And then just about we were gonna start shooting it,
他却说 我们试点别的吧 He actually said,"let's do something else".
彻底把我弄晕了 我心想 Completely disorientated me. I thought,
老天啊 这一场戏还没开拍他就要改了 Oh my god,he was gonna change the scene he was gonna shoot
那场戏 我带着同母异父的弟弟布莱恩走进来 他穿着我的鞋 When I walk in with Bryan,my little stepbrother,and he's wearing my shoes
我们反复演了很多遍 We did it over and over and over again
一旦我们抓住了精髓 抓住了这场戏的整体情感 But once we kind of found the pulse,the emotional,it's just the whole thing
夫人！ Madam!
他就让一切自然发展 从来不喊停 He just let everything go,there was never a cut
这个您同床共枕的无礼爱尔兰暴发户 I have borne as long as mortal could endure
他对我的种种虐待 the ill-treatment of the insolent Irish upstart
我已经忍无可忍 whom you have taken into your bed
我不仅憎恶他低贱的出身 和他残暴的人格 It is not only the lowness of his birth and the general brutality of his manners which disgusts me,
我们每次排练这段独白戏都是一气呵成 从不喊停 We just kept doing complete takes of the whole speech.
还有他粗鄙 下贱的举止 His brutal and ungentleman-like behavior
他毫不遮掩的不忠 他无耻的敛财 挥霍着属于你我二人的财富 his open infidelity,his shameless robberies and swindling of my property,and yours
既然我无法亲自严惩这个低贱的暴徒 And as I cannot personally chastise this lowbred ruffian
我也不忍继续眼看着他如此对你 and as I cannot bear to witness his treatment of you
他和他身边的那些狐朋狗友简直像场瘟疫！ and loathe his horrible society as if it were the plague!
我已决定要离开这个家族 永不回来… I have decided to leave my home and never return...
那时我才真正意识到 这就是真正的电影制作 That's really where I got the message,this is what filmmaking is about.
不是字面上说的拍电影 而是电影制作 As opposed to just shooting a film,this was filmmaking
我从座位上跳起来 用尽全力从后面打他 And I leap up out of my chair,and I hit him as hard as I can in the back
把他打翻在地 掐他的脖子 And knocked him to the ground,and try to throttle him
我出拳打他 但斯坦利说 你打得还不够狠 And I hit him and,Stanley said "you're not hitting him hard enough"
我看到利昂就很过意不去 可怜的利昂啊… I'm looking at Leon you know,"aww Leon..."
那场戏我们拍了30次 But we did it 30 times.
瑞安•奥尼尔
《巴里•林登》中
饰 巴里•林登
我知道我伤到他了 弄痛他了 我也不想的 And I know I hurt him,I know I hurt him. I didn't want to
但这就是斯坦利 "再来一遍 再来一遍" But this was Stanley. "Again,again."
到了午餐休息时间 斯坦利说"利昂 先别走 我想跟你谈谈" We broke for lunch,and he said "Leon,don't go anywhere,I want to talk to you."
我就想 天啊 完了 And I thought,oh my god,this is it
他肯定是要说"你尽力了 但还是没达到我的预期" He's gonna say "you've tried hard but it's not quite what I'm looking for"
因为我们已经有3个乔治三世了 前两个相当于是被炒了 Because we had three George III. The first two were kind of fired
如果你台词不够熟 你马上就不再是剧组的一部分了 If you didn't know your lines,suddenly you weren't in the picture anymore
然后会有新的演员来替代你 这种事都有好几次 And a new actor was brought in. This happened a couple of times
在剧组里都不怎么交朋友 因为你不知道别人能留多久 You didn't make friends because you didn't know if they're gonna last or not
他说 坐吧利昂 我们就坐下了 He said,"Leon,let's sit down". We sat down
然后他说 我很欣赏你的表现 And then he said,"I really like what you're doing,"
我们暂停调整灯光的间隙 "I like the fact that when we break to set up new lighting,"
你经常走来走去 练你的台词 这点我很喜欢 "that you're actually walking around,going through your text."
所以我决定要为你的角色再写很多戏份 "and so I decided I'm going to write a whole bunch of scenes for you,"
让你一直留到影片结尾 "and keep you here till the end of the movie."
我当时差点晕过去 I almost passed out.
你能想象吗 真是做梦都不敢想 Can you imagine? Oh can you imagine?
虽然我之前也参演过电影 但都只是以演员的身份 And although I've worked on films,you're always just there as an actor
所以从来没有真正理解制作一部电影 So you never really understood anything that was going on
需要的各种过程 Into the making of that film
那时我开始环顾四周 看着所有这些人力物力 I started just to look around and just see all the resources,
工作人员会调动演围观小混混的群众演员 And you see people moving these banks of brutes,
一会移近10米 一会移远10米 Ten yards further in,ten yards further back,
一会调整站的角度 所有的服装都是手工缝制 Angling them different. The costume would be made and handsewn
完全按照18世纪时的方式做出来的 In the way that they would've been made in the 18th century
人们讨论着各种精致细节 People talking about fine details
你能看见斯坦利 听到他跟艺术指导说话 And you see Stanley,and heard Stanley talking to the art director
这么多人忙前忙后 So many people walking around
每个人都有自己的工作 And everyone had something to do
每个人都贡献点什么 去构成某一幕 And they would do something to get something on a strip of film
让那一瞬间在菲林上不朽 To make that single moment work
我就想 真是太令人赞叹了 就这一个人的想法 催生了这一切 And I thought,it's so amazing that one man's idea should spawn all this
这一切就是真正的电影制作 非常让我着迷 This goes into making a movie. And that intrigued me so much
-哈哈哈生鸡蛋 -当你拍斯坦利的片子时 最好时刻备着一打生鸡蛋 -The raw egg. -When you're shooting with Stanley,you better have a dozen raw eggs.
但你知道拍那场戏之前他们给我什么当午餐吗？ But do you know what they gave me for lunch before that?
啊 别说了 炒蛋吗 Oh stop it! Scrambled?
半熟的鸡肉 和番茄 西红柿 Semi-raw chicken,and tomatoes,tomatoes
全部搅拌在一起 我当时真的好想吐 And it was all mixed together. I was so vomitous
但真的到了片场要开拍了 我又吐不出来 But the moment I go on the set,and it was like,nothing
所以斯坦利说 给他吃个生鸡蛋 And so Stanley said,give him a raw egg
你知道他在你身上看到了什么吗 他看到了影片真正的结尾 Actually you know what he saw in you? He saw a way out of the movie
-他看到了结局 -对 他… - He saw an ending. - Yeah,he...
总得有个人去终结巴里•林登 必须得有这么个人 Somebody has to get Barry Lyndon,somebody has to get him
还能是谁呢？ Who can it be?
拍最后一幕时是七月 It was in July,we shot the last scene
意识到接下来几天就是拍摄的尾声了 It was sad to know that these were gonna be the last couple of days of shooting
我就觉得 唉 这个告别会不好受啊 I kind of thought: "Poof,well,this is gonna be quite tough actually
我跟斯坦利说 我开始对你那些技术领域的事情 I said to Stanley that,I'm beginning to get quite interested in your whole
越来越感兴趣了 还有所有电影制作的幕后过程 Sort of technical side of it,and everything that has to go into the making of a movie
我很希望能在那个领域做点什么 And I'd be quite interested to work in that area
他对我说 利昂你如果是认真的 And he said to me,"if you really are serious about it Leon,"
那就去做吧 做了再告诉我 "do something about it and let me know"
后来他送了我一个圣诞礼物 很美的一本艺术画册 And he gave me a Christmas gift,a beautiful art book.
写着"亲爱的利昂 感谢你付出的杰出才艺 精力和善意" It says "Dear Leon,Thank you for your great talent,energy and kindness."
"诚敬 斯坦利" "Sincerely,Stanley"
当时我差点哭了 非常感动 It almost brought tears to my eyes. It was so touching
是这本《匠人名作》 A Treasury of Great Master Drawings
后来《巴里•林登》上映了 我开始收到各种派对的邀请 And then Barry Lyndon came out,and I started getting invites to a lot of parties
也有人联系上我 想要做我的媒体经纪人 And there was somebody who contacted me and wanted to be my press agent
我每去参加一个派对 都会遇到这样的人 他们都觉得 And the more of these parties I went to,the more people I met who just thought
《巴里•林登》是他们看过最好的电影 It was the most fantastic film they've ever seen
天啊 出演斯坦利•库布里克的电影了！ Wow! A Stanley Kubrick film,bloody hell!
布莱恩•卡普龙
演员
他前途无量啊 真的 我当时都不敢相信 This guy is going places,you know. I couldn't believe it
利昂同学
伦敦音乐戏剧学院
当时各种机遇都同时降临 Things were kind of happening in parallel in a positive way
皇家莎士比亚剧团想让我加入一整季的演出 And I was offered a season of the Royal Shakespeare Company
这样的机会在我职业生涯初期时 Which when I had early thoughts of being an actor
绝对是求之不得 I would've given anything to be a part of
皇家国家剧院也对我有意 And I had offers for the National Theater too
但我已经想好了 But what I had understood for myself was
利昂•维塔利
我下一次拍电影时 只要一有机会 The first chance I got,the next movie that I was gonna get to work on
帕尔•奥斯卡森
我就会请求到剪辑室去工作 I would ask if I could work in the cutting room
哪怕去泡茶 打杂 我无所谓 I'd make tea,anything. I don't care
然后就有一部瑞典爱尔兰合拍片 讲科学怪人的 There was a Swedish-Irish co-production of Frankenstein
我跟导演聊上了 他也看了《巴里•林登》 I talked to the director,and he'd seen Barry Lyndon
他说我很适合演弗兰肯斯坦博士 He said I can work well as Frankenstein
我就说好啊 另外我在想 So I said great,I said I was wondering if at the end of it,
我能不能参与剪辑室的工作？ I could work in the cutting room
我想熟悉这个过程 你也不用额外付我钱 Just get to know that process,and I said you don't have to pay me or anything
他说 你这么想做的话 那好啊 And he said,"sure,if you really want to"
我来告诉你我是个什么人吧 Let me tell you about myself
利昂•维塔利
所以有段时间我就在剪辑室里工作 I started a whole period where I worked in the cutting room
一直到整部影片都剪辑好 混好音 发行了 Until the whole thing was assembled and mixed and released
然后我就告诉斯坦利 我做了哪些事情 So I did that and I let Stanley know that's what I'd done
我起步比较慢 后来他寄了本书给我 I kind of started off very slowly. He sent me a book
就是《闪灵》 Which was called The Shining
封面上还是贴着张小纸条 写着"读这本书" And there was a little note on the front,he wrote "read this book"
还是那个道理 斯坦利叫我读 我当然就读 And again,it was like,well if Stanley says I gotta read it,I gotta read it
电话响了 我接起来 对面那头的声音说 The phone rang,I picked it up,and the voice on the other end said:
书你读了吗 觉得怎么样？ "Did you read it? What do you think?"
我说 这个要拍的话应该很精彩 I said,it could be a really exciting project
他就问 那你愿不愿意去美国 找一个合适的小男孩来演丹尼？ He said to me: "Now would you like to go to America and find a little boy to play Danny?"
哈哈哈 当然了 我非常愿意去美国找个小男孩演丹尼 Haha,yeah,I would like to go to America to find a little boy to play Danny.
然后我就推掉了其他所有想请我当演员的项目 And I actually just,you know,just said no to every offer of an acting job
在我看来 我已经有最好的机会了 Mission accomplished,is how I saw it
我当时挺震惊的 他不演戏了 I think I was rather amazed that he stopped acting
麦克•阿尔弗雷德兹
导演 编剧
因为我觉得他是个很棒的演员 Because I thought he was such a good actor,
也想做演员 他是享受的 and wanted to be an actor,and enjoyed it.
简直说不通啊 他刚到达职业生涯的最高峰 It's a paradox isn't it. He was at the height of his career,
然后他决定 不继续演戏了 And he decides,not to carry on acting.
我完全惊呆了 他突然就退居幕后的工作了 I was dumbfounded. And he suddenly go to the other side of the camera.
我个人是干不了幕后工作 Something I could never see myself doing.
我当时巴里林登拍了整整16个月 I had been there now,16 months.
终于他们说可以回家了 我头也不回就逃了 So as soon as they said I could go home,I fled.
我想说不定他们还要叫我回去 赶紧逃 Thinking they'd probably try to call me back,so I fled.
但他们两人显然是有某种羁绊 But apparently they had some kind of um,connection.
像利昂•维塔利这么一个人 一个演员 他有自己的人生 Why would someone like Leon Vitali,who was an actor,he had his life,
《闪灵》制作期间
有自己的事业 为什么会为了另一个人搁置这一切？ He had his work,put all that on hold for another individual?
我觉得是因为他在这个人身上看到了 And I think because you recognize in that individual
百分之九十的人身上都没有的东西 Something that you don't see in 90% of the human race.
尼克•雷德曼
导演 制片人
他是个大师 人一辈子遇不上几个大师 He was a master. You don't meet that many masters in your lifetime
能遇上一个就很幸运了 You're lucky if you meet one.
利昂是极少数这样几个演员之一 Leon is one of the only actors who has ever,you know,
布莱恩•杰米森
导演 制片人
完全交出自己的事业 只为了跟一位电影人密切合作 Surrendered his career to work closely with a filmmaker
华纳兄弟 国际市场及宣传部 前副总裁
这位电影人还是很了不得的 不仅因为斯坦利•库布里克的行业地位 Let's be honest,a filmmaker of Stanley Kubrick's,not only his statue,
还有他的神秘感 But his mystique.
看到这么一箱子东西 就会感叹 You look at a box like this, and then just think:
这就是年复一年累积下来的 陈旧无趣的材料 "This is years of dealing with all the triteous of,"
记录着在电影行业里拍点什么 一切所需的元素 "what you have to do inside the film industry to make something work."
各种部门之间的联络记录 没完没了 All the correspondences and all the bullshit,
一大堆 Hmph there's a lot of that.
有各种笔记 哪个版本有哪些不好啊 There's footage notes about what's wrong with the print,you know,
你就得从头到尾看 一帧帧地看 然后把笔记发给他们 So you have to look at everything,frame by frame,and send them notes.
斯坦利的许多偏执里 其中一点就是什么都得写下来 One of Stanley's manias was,you had to write everything down.
他会说"写下来 记得要看你之前写了什么" "Write it down. Remember to look at what you've written down."
可以这么说 我跟随斯坦利的时间里 有一半都在写写写 You could say I spent half my time with Stanley writing down things.
我们永远都在和斯坦利的所有作品打交道 We were always working with all of Stanley's titles,all the time.
他任何一部作品 都有世界某个角落 There wasn't a single one of his movies that somewhere in the world
想要一份 拿去放映 Didn't want to get a print of,and didn't want to screen.
比如特殊展览需要的版本 要到芬兰 法国 德国 Whether it was a special exhibition print in Finland,France,Germany,
瑞典 需要《光荣之路》和《杀手》 还有丹麦 Sweden,with Paths of Glory and The Killing,and Denmark.
关键是那个时候我们正在拍摄制作新片 And the thing is we were working on something completely different,
《全金属外壳》 Full Metal Jacket at this time.
啊 这个是丹尼•劳埃德的 记录他的工作时间 我叫它谎言笔记 Oh this is Danny Lloyd's. This is a record of times,I call it book of lies.
英国法律里 对儿童演员的工时限制是很严的 By law in England,They were very strict about child actors.
他们每小时只能拍摄20分钟 You could only film within 20 minutes inside any hour.
斯坦利那会有点担心 就叫我记录详细时间 Stanley started to get nervous and Stanley said "I want you to keep the times".
所以当然 就有了这本"谎言笔记" Well of course,it is where it becomes the book of lies.
他最后一天拍摄是哪天来着？ When is his last day of shooting?
1979年3月27日 March 27th,1979.
-晚上好 托伦斯先生 -晚上好 -Good evening,Mr. Torrance. -Good evening
《闪灵》
我先去了丹佛 计划是我会录像每一个试镜的孩子 I went to Denver first. The idea was that I would video every child.
《闪灵》
剪贴簿
我们要问每个孩子同一套问题 We would ask them an initial set of questions that all of them would get.
总共有四千多个小孩 人数最多的是芝加哥 There were 4,000 kids. The biggest number were in Chicago.
我最早的记忆 就是4岁时 爸爸妈妈在厨房里说话 The first thing I remember,I'm 4 years old,and my parents,talking in the kitchen,
利昂•维塔利
选角导演
什么之前把我的照片寄过去了 现在我们要一起去芝加哥试镜 Something about sending my picture in,and now we have to go to Chicago for an audition.
到了以后发现我们穿得太随便了 好多孩子 We're underdressed,and there's so many kids there,
就觉得 我们肯定没希望 and you know,"we don't have a chance".
我对他说 你好 你是丹尼吗 他不回答 And I said: "Hi,are you Danny?" and he wouldn't answer.
丹尼•劳埃德
《闪灵》中饰 丹尼•托伦斯
然后我弯下腰来 For some reason I got down on my haunches,you know,
让自己和他一样高 To get myself the same level,
我说 我是利昂 你知道你为什么来这里吗 And said: "I'm Leon. Alright,you know why you've come here?"
他就这么呆坐在椅子里 像这样 He was sitting in the chair like,that.
然后他妈妈说 说话呀 丹尼 我们大老远过来 And his mum said,"come on,Danny. We've come all this way."
他就突然说 好吧 然后他牵着我的手 And suddenly he said "okay",and so he took my hand,
我们走进试镜室 And we walked into this room.
然后我们在椅子里坐下来 大概相隔30厘米 Then we sat on a chair about a foot away from each other,
就这样盯着对方看 And just stared at each other like this.
然后他说 哇 我很喜欢你的西装 And then he said: "Gee,I really like your suit."
就这样 从那一刻起 我们打开了话匣子 And that was it,from that moment,we were talking.
真的 利昂真是个非常好的人 从那时起 Boy,Leon was really,so nice. From then on,you know,
我们就像是最好的朋友 We were like best friends.
你好 丹尼 Hello,Danny.
剧本里原来没写是一对双胞胎 It wasn't in the script that they were twins.
我只是想找合适的人选 I was just looking for someone who's good.
但是那些来试镜的孩子们 The problem with kids who come to these things,
很多都是从儿童表演学校出来的 They go to these children's stage schools,
都被打下了一种烙印 说话时都是同一种用力过度的腔调 But they're all infected with having an inflection in the way they talk.
"啊我不明白你怎么这样…" Like "I don't know why you would..."
就让人… 受不了 And you kind of thought,you know...
我那会都快绝望了 I was getting really really desperate,
直到试镜的最后一天 And suddenly on the very last day,
有个女人带了两个小女孩来 是一对双胞胎 This woman brought these two girls in to the room,and they were twins.
我第一反应就想到了黛安•阿勃斯那张照片 And the first thing that went through my head was Diane Arbus,
（美国著名摄影师）
非常有名 一对看上去有点诡异的双胞胎 Famous photograph of these twins who look a bit weird.
我大概录了她们十条试镜内容 So I did about ten takes of them doing this,
然后一溜风跑上台 And I went running onto stage:
找到了 我找到了！阿勃斯双胞胎！ "I've got them! I've got them! It's the Arbus Twins!
他看了以后就说 哇 非她们莫属啊 就是这么来的 And he looked at it and he just said,"Wow,there's no question is there?" That's it.
来跟我们玩吧丹尼 Come play with us Danny.
当这么完美的事情发生了 When something like that happens,
-一起玩… -大家不用说出口也有目共睹 -Forever... -It kind of speaks for itself,you don't have to say it.
永永… 远远… And ever. And ever.
我记得跟利昂一起 他会跟我说 "来 画画 好了停下" I remember Leon and I,he would say "Okay color,okay now stop",
或者"来个害怕的表情" Or "Okay give me the scared look".
我学会了听他的指示 他就是我的表演指导 So I was able to tune in to his voice,he was my acting coach.
斯坦利看我们合作得很好 Stanley saw that it worked,
所以每当要拍晃动镜头或是运动镜头时 That way,whenever we'd do a running shot or a traveling shot or something like that,
都让我离他最近 在摄像机后面 I'd be the one closest to him,behind the camera.
丹尼 听斯坦利的指示 Danny go listen to Stanley.
我就会告诉他 "四处看看" 或者"犹豫一下" So I could tell him to do things like "look around now",or "hesitate".
继续！来 害怕的样子！ Keep going! Come on,scared!
"害怕的表情 往后看往后看 去左边丹尼 右转" "Look scared. Look back,look back. Left,Danny. Turn right."
利昂会和我一起排练 Leon and I would be working together,practicing that.
或者有时候我们直接开机排练 但是由利昂演杰克的角色 Or maybe we were actually shooting it,but Leon would play Jack.
丹尼！ Danny!
这地方真是个大迷宫 This whole place is such an enormous maze.
后来斯坦利让我也跟谢莉合作 帮她对台词 And then Stanley wanted me to work with Shelley,just run dialogue,
也帮斯加特曼对词 And the same with Scatman.
是挺大的 但不就是个厨房嘛 It's big,but it still ain't nothing but a kitchen.
你还记得拍摄时总是一遍遍地重复吗 Do you remember the repetitive,the many takes?
呃 算记得吧 Uh kind of.
我有印象是因为有一幕里有一碗冰淇淋 I think the reason I do is because there's a bowl of ice cream.
几天过后 就有人说 But it was like a few days later,somebody said:
哇 我们已经用掉19升巧克力冰淇淋了 "Oh we went through 5 gallons of chocolate ice cream."
为了保证画面连贯性 一旦要停机重新开始 The continuity would be,if you had to stop and start again,
就会有一碗新的冰淇淋 You got a new bowl of ice cream.
我虽然吃不完 实在太多了哈哈 And not being able to eat it all,something to that effect,
你想啊 一个五岁小孩还是会留意到 哇 这么多冰淇淋 You know,a 5-year-old's mind was,"hey look at all this ice cream".
这是一个非常有标志性的人物 后来很多人都努力想达到那个级别 That is such an iconic character,so many people strive to get to that level.
关于这个 我想说的最重要的一句话 The most important thing that I would wanna say about that is that,
我觉得那是对利昂的付出的一种致敬 包括他的为人 I think that's the tribute to the job Leon did,and the kind of person he is.
斯坦利一开始就告诉我 只要你没什么具体的事情要做 Stanley had said from the very beginning,"Whenever you're not doing anything specific,"
就跟在我身边 陪我去剧组开会什么的 "you know,just stick by me. Come in to meetings and things like that,"
看看我们是怎么做事的 剧组如何运作 我们如何管理等等 "and just see how things are done,how they're run,and how we're organized."
我也跟约翰•奥尔科特合作 我们经常用黑白宝丽来相机 I worked with John Alcott,we worked a lot with black and white polaroids
（《发条橙》 《巴里•林登》 《闪灵》的摄影师）
捕捉色彩的对比度和饱和度 To get contrast and density.
而且 在片场我是允许带自己的相机的 This is another thing,I was allowed to bring my camera.
斯坦利还教了我胶片感光度 不同感光度有什么不同效果 And then Stanley cued me into ASA speeds,what you could do with them
去改变它 曝光不足 过度曝光 Push them,underexpose,overexpose...
那些他年轻时做摄影师学会的技术 All those things that he learned as a young man,as a photographer.
然后他让我负责拍选址剧照 Also he'd give me the job of doing all the location stills
去芝加哥 丹佛 密苏里州的堪萨斯城 In Chicago,Denver,and Kansas City,Missouri.
每到一个地方 就去那里所有的酒店 So we went to every hotel in whatever town we were in,
给每一种房间拍照 And just photographed every kind of room that there was.
回去的时候我带着差不多100卷胶片 I went back with about 100 rolls of film.
他说"我想告诉你 我觉得你任务完成得非常好" And he said,"I just want you to know,I think you've done a really great job."
他就是这样让人感觉非常自豪 因为他让你感到很有参与度 And he just makes you feel so great,because he's making you feel like you're a part of it.
你是他电影制作的一部分 是重要的一部分 A part of his process,like you're being an important part of his process.
让他进来 告诉他我们时间很紧 Just get him in,let him realize we're out of time.
每一天都充满着各种不同的工作 Everyday was full of a lot of different jobs.
我感觉像是在天堂 I was in absolute heaven.
一个陌生人如果刚认识斯坦利 跟他交谈十分钟 二十分钟 If anybody met Stanley and maybe talked with him for 10 minutes or 20 minutes,
或者在他手下工作一年 或者像我那么久 Maybe worked for him for a year or as long as I did,
他们总是会觉得"我了解真正的斯坦利•库布里克" They're always gonna come away thinking "I know the real Stanley Kubrick".
哪怕他只是初次见面 跟他们握手 打招呼说 你好 我是斯坦利 He could meet somebody,shake their hands,and be like "Hello,I'm Stanley".
别忘了 他是个会下棋的人 And remember,he was a chess player.
我印象很深的是那些初次见到他的人 I always remembered the people who met him for the first time,
他们总是说 哇 完全不是我听说的那样 Would always come out and say: "Oh jeez,nothing like what I've heard about,"
他太好了 非常温柔 非常这个那个的 "he's fantastic,he's so gentle,he's so this he's so that."
话说回来他对我也一样 我第一次见他的时候 I mean he was the same with me,when I first met him.
一直到了《全金属外壳》的时候 It was only when we got into Full Metal Jacket,
大家的职责变得越来越重要 And the responsibilities were getting heavier and heavier,
不一样的斯坦利就出现了 Another Stanley came in.
彻底粉碎之前的形象 Because it was like pow,pow,pow.
斯坦利•库布里克 出品
《全金属外壳》
时间 1985年八月 地点 制作办公室 Date: August 1985. Location: Production Office.
斯坦利邀请我来制作办公室 Stanley invites me to the production office,
让我看看幕后的工作 To show me what goes on behind the scenes.
首先给我留下印象的就是这里工作人员非常少 The first thing that strikes me is the lack of people,
基本没几个人 This place is almost empty.
《全金属外壳》日记
马修•莫迪恩
这里有个叫利昂•维塔利的人 There's a guy here named Leon Vitali,
我以前在斯坦利家里见过他几次 I've met him a few times at Stanley's house,
记得他好像是斯坦利的助手 I think he's Stanley's assistant.
利昂似乎是个全能型工作人员 Leon appears to be a jack of all trades,
不管什么事他都记笔记 有时候直接写在手臂上 He makes notes about everything,sometimes he writes on his arms.
关于利昂有这么件事… One thing about Leon...
马修•莫迪恩
《全金属外壳》中
饰二等兵"小丑"
我参演《全金属外壳》的时候 When I was working on Full Metal Jacket,
利昂在我看来就像是《科学怪人》里的伊戈尔 I thought of Leon as kind of an Igor character from Frankenstein.
（弗兰肯斯坦博士的助手）
"好的 主人"那种感觉 他就像是斯坦利•库布里克的奴隶 You know,"yes master". That he was,that he was just a slave to Stanley Kubrick.
我基本要做到三头六臂 什么都要管 I kind of had to be everywhere at once.
说白了就是 It was just one of those things
只要斯坦利觉得我能派上什么用场 我就按他要求的去做 where Stanley kind of utilized me in any way that he thought would be effective and would work.
这是斯坦利第一次正式让我做选角导演 It was the first time that Stanley had given me responsibility of casting.
当时有成千上万的试镜录像 There were thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands
发到我这里 要做的事情真的非常多 Of tapes sent over,there was just so much to do,you know.
我同意做斯坦利的军事技术顾问 I agreed to be Stanley's technical adviser
其实就是为了进入剧组 Simply so I could get my foot in the damn door,
好去跟他自荐 我说 我想要哈特曼教官的角色 非我莫属 And audition for Stanley,said I wanted to be Gny. Sgt. Hartman,no question about it.
我想不到还有谁能比我演得更好 I couldn't imagine anybody that could do it any better than I could.
他直勾勾看着我说 没可能的 这个角色已经有一个签约演员了 He looked me straight in the eyes and said,"not a chance,I already have a contracted actor."
怎么说呢 海军陆战队可从没教过我认输 Well,the marine corps never did teach me to lose gracefully.
李•厄米
《全金属外壳》中
饰 哈特曼教官
下午好先生 我是蒂姆•科尔塞里 今年32… Good afternoon sir,my name is Tim Colceri. I'm 32...
试镜录像
华纳兄弟给我来了电话 你好啊蒂姆 I get a phone call from Warner Brothers,"Oh hello Tim","Yes,sir?"
过来签约吧 "Come on down let's sign your contract."
他说 你这个角色是全片最有意思的 He says,"I think you have the funnest role in the film",
然后从办公桌下面 拿出《全金属外壳》的合同 He reached under his desk,and he pulled out Full Metal Jacket.
蒂姆•科尔塞里
《全金属外壳》中
原定教官人选
他说 你演那个教官 He said you play the role of the drill instructor.
我当时要招士兵 去做队伍里的群众演员 就去兵团里说 I was looking for extras for the platoon so I went to army regiments and just said:
我们在准备拍电影 如果有兴趣请联系我们 "We're making a film,we'd like to know if anyone would be interested."
然后我意识到 李•厄米以前就会穿上他的教官制服 And it occurred to me that Lee Ermey,he used to dress in his drill instructor gear.
所以我想 干脆让他演示一下 以前在军队里是怎么做教官的 And I thought oh,why don't we do it the way he used to do it.
我说 让他们立正站好 然后你给他们来个入团仪式 "Just stand them up,and you give them their induction."
我们就干起来了 我也录了下来 So we did that,and I was videotaping it.
我心想 一定得让斯坦利•库布里克刮目相看 So I'm thinking Stanley Kubrick's gotta see this,alright?
我事先跟这些人说了一下 And then I had a little talk with these people,
一会我可能会针对他们的父母 家人 And let them know that I might say a few unsavory things
说些不太好听的话 About their mothers and fathers and their immediate family.
但是他们最好不要打我 And that they should not take a shot at me,
因为如果打了 我肯定就不会招他们进组了 Because if they hit me,I would for sure not hire them.
然后我就开始了 一个接一个 Then I went from one to the next to the next,
侮辱他们的家人 嘲笑他们的长相 Berating their family,what a jerkbag they look like,
"你叫什么啊 人渣" 骂他们是巨婴 逼其中几个吸自己的大拇指 "what's your name,scumbag",I had couple of them sucking their thumbs.
然后我注意到利昂 他突然认真了起来 Then I noticed that Leon was suddenly,
一会拍那些士兵 一会拍我 He would tape them,then he would come to me.
我就想 有希望了 So I said yup,it's working.
后来我去跟利昂排练我的台词 I ended up having to rehearse all this dialogue with Leon,
而李•厄米就在外面和部队一起 指挥他们行军 And Lee Ermey is out with the troops,marching them around.
然后我开始练这么一段 Then I started doing that dialogue:
你们要是有痣 小包 疤 随便什么从头上凸起来 "If you have a mole,bump,scar or anythingelse protruding from your head,"
不管是什么 要是头上有凸起 "and by protruding I mean anything else sticking up out of your head,"
只要你们坐上椅子… "theminute you sit in that chair..."
他说 停 He goes,"stop".
我问怎么了 不是挺好的吗 I go,"What? It was going pretty good."
他说 应该是只要你们坐"进"椅子 It's "the minute you sit down in that chair".
我就 切 And I went,pffft.
我知道利昂会把那段录像给斯坦利 I knew that Leon would send the tape to Stanley,
斯坦利当晚就会看录像 Stanley would see the tape that night
然后第二天我就会拿到角色 And tomorrow I would have the job.
就这么简单 Plain and simple.
你知道会这样？ You knew that?
我心里知道 没错 In my mind I knew that,yes.
我把录像拿给斯坦利 跟他说你一定要看看这个 I took the tapes to Stanley, I said you've got to see this.
他看的时候忍不住笑 笑得几乎满地打滚 He couldn't help laughing, I mean he was falling about all over the place.
我就等着第二天一大早被叫去制作办公室 I pretty much was counting on being called to the production office first thing the next morning,
果然 And I was.
拍那部片时 我觉得我最艰巨的任务 The hardest thing I think I actually had to do on that film was
就是去那个人家里 给他斯坦利写的信 Go to this guy's house, and give him a letter that Stanley had written
信上说 很抱歉通知你 但是… Saying, "I'm really sorry to tell you, but..."
在艰难长久的考虑后 我决定让李•厄米饰演哈特曼教官 "After a painful lot of deliberation, I've decided to use Lee Ermey to play Sergeant Hartman."
但我希望你能留下来饰演直升机机枪手 "But I'd like you to stay on and play the helicopter door gunner,"
那是非常震撼的一幕中一个重要的角色 "which is a very powerful role in a very powerful scene."
诚敬 斯坦利•库布里克 "Sincerely, Stanley Kubrick"
太打击我了 我那段时间不想见任何人 Well, it crushed me. And I didn't wanna be around people so...
我感觉他们都在… I could see that they were...
所有东西都变模糊了 电视也是模糊的 Everything became like a blur to me, TV was kinda blurry.
我很恼火 八个月以来 那个角色都是属于我的 And I was angry because I had that role for 8 months,
而他都不能像个男人一样亲自来跟我谈 That he couldn't come to me as a man and talk to me about it.
他让利昂送信来 He sent Leon with a letter.
多少演员为了跟斯坦利合作的机会 The caliber of actors who'd probably sell their own mothers
可能连自己亲妈都舍得卖掉… Just to have the chance of working with Stanley...
你以为已经是你的了 突然间没了 You think you've got it, and then suddenly it's gone.
那次谈话真的很不好受 It was not an easy thing to sit through,
我都为他心痛 真的 My heart bled for him, it really did.
作为斯坦利的助手 利昂时刻准备着迎接任何挑战 "As Stanley's assistant, Leon is prepared to go for, and answer everything that might come up."
这是份艰巨的工作 从利昂的脸上就能看出来 "It's a huge undertaking. Leon's face is a testament to that undertaking."
那是一张画满无眠和担忧的地图 "A road map of sleeplessness and concern."
我爱利昂 但他让我感到难过 "I love Leon, but he makes me sad."
我想要帮他 但不知该怎么帮 他已经选定自己的路了 "I wanna help him, but I don't know how. He's chosen his path."
利昂来找我 说想要帮我练台词的时候 我是有疑心的 I was suspicious of Leon when he would come to me and say that he wanted to work on my lines.
因为我知道他就是那个站在角落里 Because I knew that he was that guy that was back there in the shadows,
跟斯坦利说悄悄话的人 Who was speaking to Stanley.
而且我觉得剧组有些其他演员可能也是 And I thought maybe, and I think the other actors working on the film thought that
把利昂当做某种间谍吧 Leon might have been some kind of spy
来监视看有没有人抽大麻啊 吸毒玩太嗨啊 That was going to see if somebody was smoking pot, or if somebody was doing drugs.
所以大家都有点提防利昂 So everybody was kinda a little bit suspicious of Leon.
但其实 利昂只不过一心一意想帮大家做好最充足的准备 When in fact, all Leon wanted to do was to make sure that people were truly, deeply prepared.
所有人都神经紧绷 Everybody was on edge.
我发现随着时间一天天过去 What I realized was that with each day that went pass,
能看到 感受到斯坦利越来越紧绷 不安 I could see and feel Stanley getting more and more tense, and nervous.
我们有个艺术导演 都有过一次精神崩溃 We had an art director who had a nervous breakdown,
纯粹是因为工作太多太赶了 Simply because the work had to be done.
拍摄地点贝克顿煤气厂 基本是要先轰炸一番再重建一下 I mean Beckton had to be demolished and then kind of built again.
斯坦利派利昂给我 我就是利昂的项目 Stanley assigned Leon to me. I was Leon's project.
"你以为你是米奇•斯皮兰吗" "Do you think you're Mickey Spillane?"
（美国侦探小说家）
对 加上这句 That's right, "you think you're Mickey Spillane"...
李有好几个小时长的试镜录像 这些录像带 It was all the hours and hours and hours of Lee's audition, and these tapes.
我们让人抄写下来 李的角色基本上就是从这大概800页的对白里拼凑出来的 We had them transcribed, and we actually stitched together Lee's role from about 800 pages.
我知道他跟李•厄米合作非常用心 I know how hard he worked with Lee Ermey,
因为李的休息室就在我隔壁 Because Lee's dressing room was next door to my dressing room.
我能听到他们在里面来回扔球 And I heard them playing catch with a ball.
有一天利昂生我气了 桌上有一碗水果 One day I pissed off Leon. There was a bowl of fruit,
他伸手拿起个橙子 然后扔了过来 He reached over, he picked up an orange, and he threw it at me.
我接住了 又扔回去 I caught it, and I threw it back.
我们一边来回扔那个橙子 我就练起了台词 And as we were tossing that orange back and forth, I started doing dialogue.
不管我们排练的频率多么高 It didn't matter to him how often we went through stuff,
内容那么多 他都不介意 How much we went through stuff.
我让他躺在地板上 闭着眼睛 I have him lying on his back on the floor with his eyes closed,
练他的对白 然后叫他加速加速加速 Just say the dialogue, and then speed it up and speed it up and speed it up.
所以他越练越快 So he was just saying it fast fast fast...
不是的 长官！ Sir, no, sir!
-你是个死基佬吗！ -不是的 长官！ -Are you a peter puffer? -Sir, no, sir!
要我说你肯定就是那种操了别人屁股 I bet you're the kind of guy that would fuck a person in the ass
都他妈的不会好心绕前面给人来个手活的垃圾 and not even have the goddamn common courtesy to give him a reach-around.
利昂•维塔利啊… Leon Vitali, I...
每天晚上他送我回去休息 第二天早上又来接我 He would drop me off in the evening, and then he would pick me up in the morning.
只要我在片场 他肯定也在 When I was there, he was there.
而我一天有14到20个小时在那 一周七天 And I was there anywhere 14, 20 hours a day, 7 days a week.
太厉害了 他都不睡觉的 斯坦利激励着他 It was amazing, he never slept. Stanley drove him.
如果没有利昂 我在《全金属外壳》里的表现 If it wasn't for Leon Vitali, I doubt I would've done half the job
连片子里的一半都达不到 That I ended up doing in Full Metal Jacket.
你听着 二等兵"傻子" Now you listen to me, Private Pyle.
给我听好了 And you listen good.
我要那把枪 现在就要 I want that weapon, and I want it now.
你把枪放下 放你脚边 然后往后退 You will place that rifle on the deck at your feet, and step back away from it.
你个智障到底是哪根筋不对？！小时候爸比妈咪爱你不够多吗… What is your major malfunction, numbnuts?! Didn't mommy and daddy show you enough attention...
那个角色为我打开了后来所有的门 And that is the one that opened all the doors, so...
从此我的工作就没断过 I haven't stopped working ever since.
很不错的一生 It's been a great life.
电影这会已经完成了 拍完了 都结束了 They're done with the movie, the movie's finished, shot, done.
然后他们决定还是把那个直升机机枪手加进去 And they decide to put the door gunner role back in.
那会他直接住我家里 He actually stayed at my house.
试镜录像
-开始 -随着我们一遍遍过 我能注意到 -Action. -And as we went through it, what you notice was that,
他一点点地抓住了角色的精髓 Little by little he was beginning to find nuances.
-你杀过女人和小孩吗 -偶尔有 -Any women and children? -Sometimes.
这个过程真的很美妙 It really was a wonderful kind of process,
看着别人逐渐弄明白某件事 Of watching somebody get an understanding about something.
后来 我们终于要去拍摄了 And then, when we actually went to the place to shoot it.
我们先坐上直升飞机 我带着录像机 We went up in a helicopter and I took a video camera with me.
我们彩排 因为斯坦利当然不能自己去坐直升机 And we rehearsed it. Because Stanley, of course, he wasn't gonna fly.
然后斯坦利大概中午到的 我们已经练了两三个小时了 Then Stanley arrived, about noon, and we've been doing this for about 2, 3 hours.
他们在小屋里布置好 放彩排录像 And then they set up the thing in the outhouse,
他说 "角度还是不对 去叫他 上去再来个13条" He went, "This angle's still off. Get him. Go up and do it 13 more times just like that."
他的表演变得稍微平和一点 但是更突显其中的可怕 And it just became a little bit calmer, but more terrifying for him.
会跑的都是越共 Anyone who runs is a VC.
站着不动的 就是训练有素的越共！ Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined VC!
斯坦利来找我 说 你得做脚步模拟 Stanley came in to me and said: "You gotta do the foots and foley."
-什么意思？ -你去做脚步声 做那些音效 -"What do you mean?" -"You gotta do all the footsteps, and you do all the sound effects."
然后还有这个 那个 "and then you do this, and do all that."
我说 我不知道我行不行 I said, "I don't know if I can do that."
他就说 当然行了 And he said, sure you can.
每次他给我派新任务都会这么说 And that's how he always started me off on a new task.
我如果说 我不知道怎么做排版 他就说 你当然行了 If I ever said "I don't know how to do layouts", "sure you do".
"我是音效师" "I am the foley man".
艾迪•蒂斯是我们的录音师 他和我两个人 Eddie Tise, who was our sound recordist, and I, just the two of us,
我们做了所有脚步音效 衣服的摩擦 枪械零件的咔咔声 所有所有 We did all the footsteps, and clothes rustle, and gear rattle, and everything.
每一个音效 包括妓女的音效哈哈哈 Every bit of sound. Including the hooker, hahaha.
换做是你 在拍了《全金属外壳》后 会像利昂那样转攻幕后吗 Would you, after Full Metal Jacket, do what Leon did, and actually switch gear,
在见识了斯坦利这个人之后？ Knowing what you know about Stanley?
唔… Ha, ha... Umm...
不会 我觉得我不会在那部片以后 跟自己说 No, I think I could not have, after Full Metal Jacket, said "you know what,"
"啊我要去为斯坦利工作" 我太自私了 "I'm gonna go to work for Stanley." I'm too selfish.
利昂的行为是无私 忘我的 What Leon did was a selfless act,
几乎是把自己钉上了十字架 Kind of crucifixion of himself.
我没法想象让我去那样做 我大概也太自私了吧 I couldn't imagine doing it myself, I guess I'm too selfish.
利昂不得不献出了他的一生 他跟随库布里克整整30年啊 Leon was compelled to dedicate his entire life, 30 years, he spent with Stanley Kubrick.
利昂为斯坦利做的事情 相当于外面一半那些执行制片人 助理制片人 Leon did for Stanley what half of those executive producers, associate producers,
制片经理 司机 裁缝 这些人加起来为其他导演做的事 Production managers, and drivers, and tailors do on other movies for directors.
朱利安•西尼尔
华纳兄弟 欧洲地区广告宣传部
前高级副总裁
那样的生活哪怕只过一天都像是坐过山车 It was a real rollercoaster ride even for a single day,
而我的那么多天 每天都很长 And of course, the days were very very long.
库布里克府邸
开车进他家大门的时候 那个锻铁大门平时基本不关的 When you turn in through the gates, these huge wrought iron gates which would never close normally,
基本上不会关门 It would just never close.
但你脑子里会听到象征性的"咣当" You kind of mentally hear this "Bang".
就好像大大的锻铁门在你身后关上了 至少我会听到 You know, they were closing behind you. I mean I did, I did.
事实就是 Fact of the matter was, this is it.
一旦到了这里 你就没有真正的自我了 直到什么时候你开车离开 There will be no you until you start driving out of here, at some point.
给斯坦利的笔记
利昂
清早就得打各种电话 给实验室啊 华纳伦敦分部啊 The phone calls you had to make early in the morning to the laboratory, or Warners in London,
因为你很清楚 接下来一整天都得一直跟进这些电话 Cuz what you know is, you're gonna be chasing for the rest of the day.
关键是 我说我每天工作十五六个小时 那只是在那里的时间 The thing was, when I say I worked 14, 15,16-hour days, that was at the place.
在斯坦利家里 那是我们处理工作的总部 That was at Stanley's place, the place where we worked.
但等我回自己家了 还有电话工作等着我 But when I go home, it was all telephone work.
他家里的工作人员多吗 Was there a big staff on the estate?
有我自己 处理跟他电影作品有关的所有菲林 录像 电视 实验室工作等等 There was me, who worked, dealt with all the film, video, TV, lab work and all that stuff to do with his movies.
有托尼•弗雷温 他打点斯坦利的大房子 And then there was Tony Frewin who looked after the estate,
托尼•弗雷温
库布里克助手
协调编剧 还有编剧们和斯坦利之间的联系 go between writers, between them and Stanley.
然后就是扬 代理斯坦利的权益 法律方面的权益 就这样 And then there was Jan, who looked after Stanley's interests, legal interests and that was it.
扬•哈兰
导演 制片人
-是你负责管理斯坦利？ -不 不 不 我从没"管理"斯坦利 -But you handled Stanley? -I didn't, no I never "handled" Stanley.
-哈 从来没有"管理"斯坦利 -那你换个更恰当的说法？ -Ha, never "handled" Stanley. -Well reword it for me.
我管理好我自己 好在斯坦利的世界里存在下去 I handled myself, so I could exist in Stanley's world.
经常在实验室里工作到凌晨3点 不停记笔记 You're there till 3 in the morning, just writing these notes,
所以我学会了那么多色彩纠正的技巧 That's how I learned so much about color timing,
因为他做的时候我总是在他身边看着 这么多年了 Cuz I was with him, as he's doing it, for all those years, it was years.
他的颜色分级通常都是在施滕贝克编辑台上做的 Most of his grading he'd stop and start on the Steenbeck.
科林•莫斯曼
德拉克斯实验室
前工程技术总监
他一般晚上11点到这 利昂总会在 He'd come at about 11, and Leon would be there.
就像是个小型家族企业 So it was very much a family thing.
这些是斯坦利的笔记 大师的亲笔啊 经常整夜写这些 This is Stanley's notes, the maestro's writing, all bloody night doing this.
"颜色很不自然 瑞安的头发不应该是橙色的" "Very unnatural color, Ryan's hair is not orange."
这里就有15页 我猜收到笔记的人 15 pages of this stuff. I'm sure their heart sank
那天早上开工发现这些在桌上等着他 肯定心都凉了 when they did come in, only to find this waiting for them.
华纳兄弟有段时间在所有传真上都印了这个 Warner Brothers went through a time where every fax they sent to you had that.
慢慢地你就开始讨厌兔八哥了 想不到吧 You actually started to hate Bugs Bunny, you really did.
本能反应就是 唉 又一份全是坏消息的传真来了 You thought: "Oh, this is another bad news fax coming through."
这是《2001:太空漫游》我给他们的录像带排版笔记 This is 2001, video VHS with the notes that I gave them.
没有严格遵守我给的排版 没有精确到毫米 唔… They hadn't follow my layout, I mean, not to the millimeter, so...
那要笔记有什么用 I did give them these notes.
这也是我做的 这样子打开 然后里面有个小册子 I did this one. There it is, and then you open it up, then you have a little booklet.
所有细节都得精确到毫米 Everything had to be to the millimeter.
斯坦利还签了名呢 We even got Stanley to sign.
那时候要用彩色复印机 那鬼东西有多慢你知道吗 I was using a color copier, do you know how slow those things were?
斯坦利特别抓狂 因为他想要的东西总是马上就要 It drove him nuts. It drove him nuts because Stanley wanted everything now.
这些是《战时谎言》的准备笔记 This is all pre-production on Wartime Lies.
（库布里克立了项没拍完的电影）
也就是各种杂项清单 手持武器啊 小型枪炮啊 库存清单 AKA errand papers, hand weapons list, small arms artillery, inventory...
你知道吗 斯坦利的每部电影 都有差不多 Do you know, for every one of Stanley's films, there were like
25个保险备份 25 protection tracks.
然后每一份原始底片 又有好几十个备份 多到数不清 For every single original negative, there were dozens, and dozens, and dozens...
《奇爱博士》的完整原始底片消失不见了 The original negative of Dr. Strangelove disappeared off planet earth.
当时唯一有原始底片的 And the only bit of original negative you'll see,
就是这么一小段 曼德雷克发现了一台正常工作的无线电 Is just one little short, when Mandrake has discovered a working radio,
发现其实没有核警报 That tells him that there is not a nuclear alert.
后来我找完整底片找了10年 And so for 10 years I was searching for that one.
我找到《奇爱博士》的底片了
所以我们亲自管理斯坦利所有电影的每一卷片子 That's why we kept track of every reel of all of Stanley's movies
只要我们能亲自拿到手 放好 存好档 我们都自己来 And if we could grab them, and store them and archive them ourselves, we did.
-这个也基本上是全职工作了？ -是啊 -And that was a full time job itself? -Yeah.
说起来 要做的每一件事都是一份全职工作 Yeah funny enough, everything you ever did was a full time job.
利昂从头到尾 亲自制作了 Leon put together, put together, quite literally,
给每个国家所有不同的预告片 Different trailers for every country in the world.
这些预告片都在这里制作 全部让利昂检查好 然后寄出去 They were printed here, they were checked by Leon, and they were then shipped out.
他还自己帮小型的后期制作公司把需要的广告放进去 He helped small production house, he had to deliver the ads needed.
所有这些细节 让利昂忙到简直是口吐白沫 歇斯底里的程度 All the minutia that drove Leon into, you know, catatonic foaming-at-the-mouth hysteria,
这些事情是我们公司 包括其他电影公司 Were the things that other people in our company, and certainly the other film companies,
都没有想到 没有想过的 Hadn't thought about, didn't think about.
当《全金属外壳》要在英国发布DVD的时候 When it came to release, Full Metal Jacket, in the UK,
沃伦•利伯法
华纳家庭影像
前总裁
斯坦利本能地就不信任华纳家庭影像英国分部的管理层 Stanley intuitively came to distrust the managing director of Warner Home Video in the UK.
不信任到派人去英国各地 Going as far as to send people across England,
给店里的货架和橱窗拍照 take photographs of the in-store displays and the store windows.
我去了很多家分店拍照 I went out around all these stores and I took photographs.
然后跟斯坦利说 连华纳家庭影像自己的大楼里都没有一丁点宣传广告 When I told Stanley there's not a single bit of advertising in Warner Home Video's own building,
他彻底发飙了 You know, he just went fucking berserk.
这事责任在我 I felt incredibly responsible for this,
好在后来我们补救了 Ultimately we remedied the shortcomings.
他追求完美的执着有时候是会让人受不了 His attention to perfection could periodically be maddening.
但说到底 那是他的心血 他是出于一个艺术家的热情 Well the reality, these were his works, and he brought the passion of an artist,
想要让观众们能看到最高质量的版本 Who wanted the audience to see the movies in the highest qualify form,
也要让商品有应得的宣传 And to have them marketed properly.
利昂给斯坦利和华纳兄弟这个行业巨头之间搭了座桥 What Leon provided was that link between Stanley and this great behemoth that was Warner Brothers.
这个庞大 强势的企业 Huge, huge powerful corporation.
就像是只恐龙 高大强壮的身体 和小小的脑袋 Rather like a dinosaur, wonderful mass power body, and a tiny little brainpan.
斯坦利通过利昂做到的 就是让他们多少做些让步 What Stanley was doing, and went through Leon, was getting them to change things ever so slightly.
大家总是说"利昂说需要这个 我们给他做好吧" I never heard a word said other than "Leon needs it, let's get it done".
如果什么事出差错了 他总是说 If anything ever went wrong, he said,
"确保他们彻底理解你想要的具体是什么 这可是你的责任" "It is your responsibility to make sure they understand exactly what you want."
有时候要试好多次才能搞对 That could take 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 tries to get it right.
如果我觉得没有得到回复 或者别人 怎么说 If I felt like I wasn't getting any response, or people were, kind of,
说好听点 把我当皮球踢来踢去 For one of the better phrase, dicking me around, you know,
说了会把东西发过来 结果没发 Said they're gonna send something, it never get sent,
然后我得追着他们要 You gotta chase em up, and chase em up.
按我写的跟他们说 别为他们开脱 要让他们知道大麻烦在等着他们
他会说 "好 利昂 今晚你打电话给他们 跟他们说" He'd say, "Ok Leon, tonight you get on the phone, and you say to them,"
斯坦利非常生气
"如果他们敷衍你 就是在敷衍我" "if they're talking like that to you, they're talking like that to me."
把我们当猴耍
真的会让人感受到那种忠诚 It really felt like there was kind of a loyalty there.
有时候我走进自己办公室 So sometimes, I get into my office,
桌上会有传真 And there'd be a fax on my desk.
是斯坦利写给别人的 指责他们犯下的滔天大罪 From Stanley to somebody, about some heinous crime that they committed.
糟糕透顶
但其实不是斯坦利 因为他落款写的是我的名字 Except it didn't come from Stanley, he'd typed my name under it.
祝好
利昂•维塔利
有时候我都不知道"我"跟别人说了些什么 Where I never knew what it was I was saying to anybody,
因为斯坦利替我说了 我是他的替代品 Because Stanley was saying it for me, using me as a substitute for him.
除了其中两个人 我从来没有见过洛杉矶这边的工作人员 I never met, with maybe two exceptions, anybody from the offices here in LA.
哪怕他们去英国的时候 斯坦利也会让我待在别的房间 Even when they came over to England. Stanley would stick me in the back room.
我觉得 斯坦利是不想让他们知道我到底长什么样 I think what it was, in a way, you know, Stanley didn't want them to see what I look like.
说好听点 我是他的"代言人" Being his, for one of the better words, "spokesman",
总是跟别人说 你必须做这个做那个 When I would say "we need to do this, you gotta do that, you gotta do this".
那些人听我电话里的声音 估计都以为 You know, they probably heard my voice on the phone and thought
我是那种穿三件套西装 一米八几的权威人士 I wore a three-piece suit, 6 feet tall, and I had tremendous authority.
外界听到"助手"这个头衔 会有一些猜测 The assumptions that people think, oh somebody is an assistant for someone.
但你做了那么多 做排版啊 跟实验室处理底片啊 You're doing layouts, you're, you know, you're working with labs,
要管电子修复 要选角 You're working with restoration, you're casting people,
-还要跟演员合作… -有的时候还要亲自演 -You're working with the actors... -And sometimes I'm acting.
你对这个头衔满意吗 还是有什么… Was that the title you were happy with, or was that...
没任何区别啊 It didn't make any difference.
我跟你说 要出国的时候 我得填那些签证表格 You know something, when I traveled abroad, and I used to have to fill in these visas.
签证申请表
利昂 维塔利
上面问职业 我总是写"电影工人" They used to say Occupation, I always used to write "Filmworker"
职业
我就是个电影工人 我是一个工人 那就是我的工作 I mean, I'm a filmworker, I'm a worker, that's what I do.
助手也好什么也好 我只是帮助这个人 So assistant to me, is nothing other than I'm assisting somebody
电影工人
（本片英文原名）
去实现他想呈现到大银幕上的东西 To fulfill what it is they want to get up on a screen.
我是对白教练 做选角 I was dialogue coaching, casting...
我负责物流 电视 销售 I was also in charge of shipping, television, sales,
各种版权发放 做排版 视频传输 DVD 激光盘 库存清单 All that licensing, doing layouts, video transfer, DVDs, laser disc, inventory,
考勤表 检查底片 Time sheets, checking all these prints,
翻译各种预告片 那个真要命 The trailer translations, oh that was...
色彩纠正… 所有电影 每一份菲林 每一个给电视放的版本 Color timing... There wasn't a print or a tele-cine I hadn't sat with Stanley,
我都有跟斯坦利一起检查 做改动 然后跟实验室沟通 Make the changes, and then talk to the lab about it afterward, for all those movies.
一开始你会觉得 哇塞 这可是库布里克啊！ At first you're like, "Oh my god, Stanley Kubrick."
丽莎•里昂
电影人 摄影师
《大开眼戒》工作人员
后来就会变成 妈的烦死我了 And then you're like, fuck no man.
因为你会被逼到崩溃边缘 满脑子都是 我已经啥也不剩了 Cuz you're pushed to a point where you're like, "I have no more."
只有了解了斯坦利•库布里克这个人以后 你才能想象 You have to understand Stanley Kubrick before you can even begin to understand
利昂•维塔利这些年是怎么过来的 What Leon Vitali did, does, went through,
他的灵魂和思想上被打上了怎样的烙印 What's imprinted on his soul and mind.
你要知道 这个了不起的人 天才 It's only when you understand that this remarkable man, genius,
噩梦 温暖 照顾别人 疏远别人 冷漠 A nightmare, warm, caring, distant, cold,
大手笔 幽默 绝顶聪明 非常有决心的人 Expensive, funny, hugely intelligent, totally driven man,
为了他的电影如何不惜一切代价 Would do to make his movies.
斯坦利对哪怕最小的细节那种超常的注意 把很多人都吓跑了 Stanley's extraordinary attention to the tiniest detail drove a lot of people away from him.
《巴里•林登》的制片设计师 The Production Designer on Barry Lyndon
因为受不了那种压力 直接从片场被救护车接走了 Actually got taken off by men in white coats because he couldn't stand the pressure.
他可以像白马王子那样对你好 He could be as charming as Charming to you,
然后你觉得 哇我从没这么自豪过 他拍我肩膀夸我了 Where you think, "Boy, I'm on top of the world, he just patted me on the back,"
这事他很满意 "And being very pleased about something."
然后下一秒你可能就被骂得狗血淋头 And then the next thing you could be shit on from a great height.
说实话 我一直都有点怕他 I was always scared of him, to be honest.
真的 因为他的光环太强了 感觉就像是在跟上帝说话 I really was. You know because it was really cool, it's like talking to God, pretty much.
史蒂夫•索斯盖特
华纳兄弟欧洲地区
技术执行部
前高级副总裁
但是时刻在那种环境下生活 在那种环境下工作 太高压了 But living in that environment,and working in that environment, which was so intense.
斯坦利的高压偏执是出了名的 And the intensity of Stanley is well-documented.
所以不会有别人像利昂那样靠那么近 So Leon was as close as anybody was likely to get to that.
假如利昂做错了哪怕一件事 后果啊… If Leon would do one thing that wasn't correct,
但是不好意思 没有人是十全十美的好吗 Well nobody can do everything correctly, I'm sorry.
尤其是跟斯坦利合作的时候 因为要注意的细节实在是太多了 Especially when you work with Stanley, because it's so much detail and so much stuff.
而且他本能地觉得 你没往心里去 It was his nature to always think that you didn't care,
或者你会搞砸 觉得别人都没有他那么投入 Or you're gonna mess up, that people aren't gonna be as invested as he is.
感觉就好像 他总是在等着你搞砸 He was always waiting for you to fuck up in a way.
所以就 不管你付出多少 他给人感觉总是 So it was always like, as much as you gave, that it was like
"还不够 还不够 再多努力一点 多一点" "Give more, and you have to give more, and more, and more..."
利昂就是那样被吞噬掉的 And that's why Leon got eaten up.
一般人都有这些美好的幻想 I think we have these ideas about what it would be like
跟世界上最伟大的导演之一朝夕相处会是怎么样 To spend all of your time with one of the world's greatest film directors.
但等你停下来仔细想想 And then, when you really stop to think about it,
就会发现 哦不 其实会像地狱一样 You think: "Oh, that would be hell actually."
因为你永远不会有自己的生活了 Because you would never have your own life anymore.
你的整个存在 都是围绕着那个人 You know, your entire existence would revolve around this one individual.
在电影行业之外 I'd say outside of the film industry,
我觉得斯坦利就相当于戈登•拉姆齐 Stanley's equivalent would be Gordon Ramsay
就像他那些电视真人秀里那样 On one of his, you know, reality TV shows.
满嘴脏话 他妈的他妈的 你他妈的个蠢货 这样的 Where he says oh fuck me, fuck me, fucking stupid... You know.
看我啊 你他妈看着我的眼睛！你他妈的生气？没我气！ Fucking look at me, look at me in the eyes! Not as pissed as I am! You fucking aren't!
我才不上那种屎一样的菜！这不是私人恩怨这是职业素养！ I'm not sending that shit! This is not personal, this is professional!
那第一盘就是一坨屎！你给我振作起来！ That first one was a piece of shit, now pull it back!
斯坦利有时候也会那样 如果他因为什么生气了 Stanley could be like that, I mean if he was mad about something,
肯定的 如果错在你 你就完了 You could bet, that if there was a fault, you were done.
做那些工作 最可怕的部分 The worst part of any of those jobs,
就是你离开实验室的时候 或者其他地方 was actually the time you left the lab or whatever facility it was,
带着你觉得最好的成果 with what you thought you got,
而且还得准备好其他方案 And you had to have lots of alternatives.
然后开车回去时一路都会想 And the whole journey back was, you know,
天啊天啊怎么办 他可能会不满意 他要是不满意怎么办… "Oh my god oh my god, he may not like this, he might not like this..."
-实在是… -压力很大？ -绝对的 -I mean... -Stress? -Oh yeah.
这些人做了一版70毫米的2001太空漫游 They made a 70mm print of 2001.
然后给我们发了一份来 绿色比原版超了百分之十 And they sent us this copy which was about 10 points too green.
我得一帧帧去过去改 上面这个小的是斯坦利原来的35毫米版本 I had to go through every single frame. The smaller frame here is Stanley's 35mm print,
按照他的标准调整过色彩 你可以看看区别有多么大 Color timed to his specifications. But you can see they're so different.
斯坦利看到以后 他就 完全暴怒了 And when Stanley saw it, he was just apeshit.
应该是用暴怒形容 I think that's the word to describe it.
我当时看到就说了 他是绝对不会让这个过关的 Oh I saw it and I just said: "There's no way he's gonna approve this thing."
差别是多么巨大啊 做这个的人怎么就没看出来呢 What a huge difference there is, and how couldn't someone see that.
那件事我是能感同身受他的愤怒的 That was where I had a lot of empathy for Stanley,
我见过最烂的版本
但同时我也觉得 他也是有一点自作自受 But then I also think he kind of pulled that a little bit on himself.
屎一样
糟糕透顶
因为他的脾气实在是太刻薄 太冷嘲热讽 太强硬了 Because his temper was so vitriolic, and so sarcastic, and so hard.
不管是什么事 跟他说实话都需要点勇气 It took a little bit of courage to actually say the truth about any situation
比如我们检查当天的原始影像 我必须得说出来 If when we were watching the rushes, I couldn't not say:
我觉得这里看起来不太好 "I don't think that looks quite right."
因为如果我不说的话 之后他就会怪我 Because if I didn't say it, he would say afterwards:
你当初怎么没跟我说 "Why didn't you say something?"
有一次平安夜 突然间剪辑室里就剩我一个人了 It was Christmas Eve and suddenly I was the only person left in the cutting room.
其他人中午前就走人了 Everyone had pissed off by noon.
我得给斯坦利过目当天拍的原始画面 他那天的脾气简直他妈臭到不行 And I had to show Stanley these rushes, and he came down in the foulest fucking temper.
在那之前 我如果提醒他某个镜头里有闪光 有光晕 Whenever I said to Stanely there's flare in this shot or that shot,
他都说"我喜欢光晕" 所以后来我就不提这事了 He said: "I like flare." So I never bothered to mention it.
那天他在看原始画面 看到了光晕 他就说 So he's watching the rushes, and he saw this flare, and he said,
"利昂 怎么有光晕！" "Leon, there's flare!"
我就说 呃是啊 可是你一直都说你喜欢光晕的 And I said, "Well yeah, but you've always said you like flare."
然后他把我骂得那个惨啊 完全不敢相信 And he gave me such a bollocking it was unbelievable.
直接就是冲着我咆哮 后来他骂完了 马上又说 I mean he was just screaming at me. And as soon as he finished,
"你大概也想回家了吧" He said, "Guess you wanna go home now."
"过来 我有礼物给你" "I've got some gifts for you, come."
他就走到走廊另一头 他的办公室门口放着一箱各种各样的礼物 So he walked down the hallway, and outside his office was this box with lots of gifts in them.
他说 嗯 拿着吧 圣诞快乐 He said, "Uh so, take it, happy Christmas."
这都什么跟什么啊 You kind of think, "I can't believe this,"
我就以为 今天就这么结束了吧 他不会再找我麻烦了 "well this will be the end, he'll leave me alone now."
结果到了第二天圣诞节 一点钟 他就又电话轰炸我了 Until one o'clock on Christmas day, and that's when I started getting bombarded with phone calls
这个事怎么样了 那个事呢 我们进度如何啊 Like "what's happening with this? What's happening with that? Where are we now?"
好然后我以为该说的说完了 放下电话 And you thought you finished the conversation, you put the phone down.
过了十分钟 电话就又响了 And then 10 minutes later, you know, ring.
还有那个事呢？这个做到哪了 你看了那个什么什么吗 "What's happening with that? What's happening with this? Have you looked at that?"
那事你做好了吗 "And have you done this?"
没完没了啊 It just went on and on.
我做了什么啊？ what am I doing?
作为库布里克的助手 他的全能型助手 When you work as Stanley Kubrick's assistant, general factotum,
你自己想不发脾气都难 It's not terribly difficult to lose your temper, it's easy.
你必须有圣人般的耐心 You have to have patience of a tribe full of Jobs,
每天听着那些话 忍着 To listen to that kind of thing everyday, and take it,
还得理解他那样说话的用意 And understand from whence it came.
到后面他可能就觉得 I guess he didn't feel he needed anymore,
不用再小心照顾我的情绪了 To be kid, love handling me, and my sensitivities.
直接就是"听好了啊 你得做这个事 必须完成" It became "Right, you're here to do this, and you have to get it done"
任何错误都会被揪出来拍死 Any kind of error or mistake could be just jumped on,
感觉就像是被钉一次十字架 And absolutely, you could feel crucified at the end of it.
确实有的时候我会犯蠢 没有理解他的要求 There were times when I was a total dickhead, and I didn't get it,
或者我严重判断失误之类的 Or I made a gross error of judgement or something.
不管斯坦利怎么吼利昂"利昂你这是在干啥！" As much as Stanley would yell at him and be like, "Leon, what are you doing!"
"天啊…" 利昂总是 好的斯坦利 好的好的 但是你看… "Oh, god..." Yes, Stanley. Yes, Stanley. Ok Stanley, but listen...
他自己从不提高音调 哎 他们在一起都多少年了啊 Always kinda keeping it low tone, and it was, how many years were they together?
我觉得他们的关系能保持那么久 唯一的原因就是 I think that the only reason that that could have continued for so long,
那种深深的忠诚 斯坦利是清楚的 Was because of a deep loyalty that Stanley understood,
他明白利昂是他的后盾 是一个会支持他保护他的人 That Leon was somebody who had his back, and would protect him.
利昂跟我说过一些关于他们俩 他最珍贵的记忆 The few things that Leon has shared with me that he holds most dear to him,
比如两个人站在他家的门廊上 一起抽着烟 从门廊上往下撒尿 Standing on the porch of his house, smoking cigarettes, and peeing off the porch.
杰克•尼科尔森应该都没有跟他一起站门廊上撒过尿吧 I don't think Jack Nicholson ever peed off the porch with Stanley Kubrick.
（《闪灵》男主演 美国著名演员）
他们之间的关系是独一无二的 很少见 I think they had a unique relationship. Rarely found.
两人之间有很强的信任 They had this level of trust between each other.
利昂就像是斯坦利的一部分 Leon was like a part of Stanley.
两人之间的那种默契 是不需要说出口的默契 There was an understanding between them, an unspoken understanding.
这些是我写的证词 关于斯坦利的电影 These are depositions I wrote about aspect ratios
他本人想要保留的屏幕比例 That Stanley had wanted his films to be.
这些文件我拿去公证过 And I had them notarized.
《巴里•林登》就是一部争议不断的片子 Barry Lyndon, that's been a bone of contention all the time.
都让我头痛 各种杂七杂八的人来跟我吵 And I went through day of hell, where I had all these people saying,
说画幅比例不可能是1.77比1 "It never was 1.77."
从来都不是1.77 "It never was."
挺逗的其实 我跟随斯坦利那么多年 处理了那么多年的片子 And it's really funny isn't it, that I've worked for all those years with Stanley, working on prints.
我们当时有一个特制的光圈挡片 装在放映机里 We had a special aperture plate that we put in the projector,
就是为了放1.77的片子 it was 1.77.
什么乱七八糟的 噗 You know, I mean, pssh.
就像《第237号房间》里一样 A bit like Room 237,
（纪录片 专门讲关于闪灵的各种猜想）
《闪灵》到底是讲什么的 每个人都有一大堆想法 you know where people had their own ideas of what the film was about, blah blah blah.
什么"那张滑雪的人的照片其实不是一个滑雪的人" You know, "A picture of a downhill skier was not a picture of a downhill skier,"
"是象征着撒旦 还能看到他的尾巴呢" "it's a picture of Satan, and you can see his tail behind him."
这么说吧 我看到满月的时候 从来看不出别人说的人脸 You know, when I look at the full moon, I never see a man in the moon.
但如果从某个角度 我能看出一只坐着的法国贵宾犬 If you look on one side of it, I can see a French poodle sitting.
我不会觉得月亮上真的坐着一只法国贵宾犬 I don't think there is a French poodle sitting on the moon.
这个问题我得交给利昂 我问了啊 I'm gonna have to turn to Leon, and I'm gonna have to say,
利昂 斯坦利跟阿波罗火箭登月这事有关吗 Leon, was Stanley involved in the Apollo Landings?
斯坦利电影节
"闪灵机密"讲座
没有 No.
他给我写的任务清单 打扫好放映室 半天内 "Task list: finish cleaning up projection room. About half a day."
重新整理我的文件柜 一天内 "Go through my filing cabinet and reorganize. About one day."
清理旧图书馆 "Clear up old library."
给各种仓库列物品清单 半天内 "Finish inventory, long garage. Finish inventory, long stalls. About half a day."
仓库清单
车 库 第4页
我们那个仓库是一长排房子 大概45米长 And the stable block was a line of buildings, 50 yards long,
所有东西都那么堆在里面 我当时得全部整理清点好 Where everything was shoved into. And I had to sort it out.
我给他回信 亲爱的斯坦利 仓库都整理好了 "Dear Stanley, this is now complete, regarding stable block."
-他满意吗？ -他压根就没去看过 -Was he happy? -He didn't even come and look at it.
"利昂 你怎么让沙发搞得这么脏" "Leon, how could you get the couch so filthy?"
呃 脏是因为他任由他几只狗躺在上面掉毛 Well, it was the dog hairs of the dogs who he allowed to lie on the sofa,
星期天晚上 跟他一起躺沙发上看电影 On Sunday evening, he was watching the movies.
如果一个天才让我给他打扫房间 My appreciation for a genius would probably end,
菲尔•罗森塔尔
编剧 制片人
我对那个天才的欣赏也就到头了 When the genius told me to clean a room for him.
利昂 台球室！
利昂为了他什么事都做 我是不会的 He would do anything for the guy, and I would not.
如果体力上让我吃不消了 我会明说 I would, when it got physically difficult, I'm here to tell you,
我会说 多谢了您啊 你确实是个天才 离我远点吧 I would probably say, "Thank you very much, you're quite a genius, leave me alone now."
在我的职责里还包括管理专门的猫咪领地 Amongst my other duties is the cat compound.
想办法保证所有猫的安全 How we kept the cats safe.
斯坦利这个人 天啊 他觉得动物绝不会有任何坏心思 Stanley... Oh my god. He never thought animals had any guile.
一旦有一个快死了 那就是世纪大麻烦 So when one of them was dying, it became a major major problem.
那时有一只很乖的猫 十五六岁吧 叫杰西卡 There was this lovely cat, 15 or 16 years old, named Jessica.
她生病了 动都动不了 我在整座房子里布置好视频监控 And she had a fit, couldn't move. I set up a whole video system in the house,
好让每个房间都有一个显示屏 能看到杰西卡 So that in every room there was a monitor where you could see Jessica.
躺在那里 全天都能看到 Lying there, any time of the day or night.
没办法 他就是这么偏执 不愿放手 It just became obsessive, just didn't wanna let her go.
最终我们叫来兽医 给她打了针 And in the end, we called the vet, and they gave her the shot
几周前就应该打的 让她安息 She should have had weeks before, put her to sleep.
所有事对他来说都是个大悲剧 Everything was a tragedy for him.
如果一只狗快死了 那世界上除了这只狗就啥也不剩了 If a dog was dying, there was nothing else except this dying dog.
我是理解的 但是工作没有任何进度 我得尽量自己继续 And I understand it. Nothing got done. I had to keep with the work.
这样他回来的时候 至少我能说 这是我们目前的进度 So that when he came back to it, I could say, "this is where we are".
今天我们能敲定巴里•林登的改动吗 只需要5分钟 我好接着完成外语版本 利昂
利昂对电影事业很着迷 好奇心强 而且靠谱 Leon is fascinated, and he's curious, and he's there.
一个受过莎士比亚式教育的演员 Someone who's a Shakespearean-trained actor,
你跟他解释三点打光 他马上就能听懂 Someone that you can explain three-point lighting to and they'd get it.
雅各布•罗森伯格
导演
然后你跟他说洗胶片和实验室的事 他也都记得 Then you find someone that you can tell them about baths and labs, and they remember.
加一起不就是个活金矿吗 而且他对你如此迷恋 And you've struck gold. And that person is so enamored with you,
永远不会离开你 And they don't wanna leave your existence.
那种东西是无可替代的 That sort of thing is irreplaceable.
而且假如利昂当时真的尝试离开 And if Leon had really ever seriously try to make a break, you know, for the hills,
我觉得他也会被阻止的 I think he would've been prevented from doing it.
有一天他走进我办公室 说"利昂 我刚想到个事" He came into my office and he said, "Leon, I just had a thought."
"你不会有一天要离开我去华纳兄弟工作吧？" "You're not gonna go and work for Warner Brothers are you?"
我当时穿着件军用夹克 头发看上去一周没梳洗了 I was wearing a Marine jacket, my hair hadn't looked as if it'd been combed in a week.
我就说 斯坦利 我看上去像坐班的人吗？ I just said, "Stanley, do I look corporate?"
他就笑了笑 然后又出去了 He kind of smiled, and then laughed, and then he kinda walked out.
那之后我们就再也没有聊过这事了 And then there was never any discussion
我离开啊 他把我换掉啊 都没有 about me leaving or him getting rid of me again
有些人会跟斯坦利说 他们真的会这么说 When somebody would say to Stanley, and they would,
"只要能为你工作我右手都可以不要" 他会微笑听着 "I'd give my right arm to work for you." He would kind of smile.
我其实觉得 他内心是在想 Because I actually think, you know, he thought:
你这也太没诚意了吧 只给个右手而已？ "Well why are you low-balling me, what, just the right arm?"
左手呢 双腿呢 躯干和心脏 所有所有呢？ "How about the left one? And the legs? And the body and the heart? And everything?"
你如果跟他说 我很投入的 你最好是真心说这话 If you said to him, "I commit myself", you just better make sure you mean it.
不然的话 何必呢 Otherwise, why would you bother?
因为如果你不去投入你的所有 Cuz you'll betray yourself anyway in the end
到最后不就是背叛自己说过的话吗 if you're not going to give everything you've got.
投身事业 因为他就是这么做的 他把自己的全部 To what it is you're doing, because he did, he gave everything he got,
都投入到他的事业里了 这就是最重要的一点 To what he was doing, and that's the most important thing.
这就是我见识到 我理解到 让我响应的一点 And that's what I saw, that's what I understood, and that's what I reacted to.
-亲友们理解你吗 -我觉得不理解吧 -Friends, family, etc., everybody understood that? -I don't think so.
-为什么？ -因为斯坦利算是 把我吞没了 -And why is that? -Because Stanley kind of ate you up.
电影行业是个奇怪的世界 而库布里克的小世界比大多数都更古怪 You're in this strange world, and probably Stanley Kubrick's world was stranger than most.
他很明显是那么沉浸于电影作品的各种细枝末节 He was obviously someone who was so steeped in the day to day minutiae of his own films.
什么都想做 而很大一部分工作都交给利昂了 He wanted to do everything, and a lot of that work got deferred to Leon.
利昂成了他的四肢 我觉得这大大降低了他的生活质量 And Leon really became his arms and legs, and I think it probably took quite a serious toll.
他是不会承认的 He would not admit it.
不会亲口这样说 但我会说 He probably wouldn't say it out loud, I will though.
利昂为了事业牺牲了很大一部分家庭生活 Leon surrendered a great deal of his family life to the cause.
他需要那份工作养家吗 当然不了 他完全可以继续当一个出色的演员 Did he need the job? No, he could worked on, continue working, as I said, as a very good actor.
斯坦利总是说 你要么在乎 要么不在乎 Stanley said, "You either care or you don't care".
没有中间灰色地带 There's no gray area in between.
他心目中的在乎 就意味着竭尽所能贡献你的时间 So caring meant giving as much of your time as you have,
直到你彻底累垮 没法继续了 Until you quite literally were too tired to go on.
斯坦利对你们怎么样？ How was Stanley with you guys?
-斯坦利吗? -对 -Stanley? -Yeah.
他啊 他很好的 He was, em, he was lovely.
马克斯•维塔利
利昂的儿子
他对我和马克斯总是很温柔的 He was always very sweet to me and Max.
薇拉•维塔利
利昂的女儿
我一直都觉得他挺有魅力的 大概是因为我不为他工作吧 I always found him very rather charming, probably because I didn't work for him.
玛莎•维塔利
利昂的女儿
如果他们那天工作顺利 那我也会有快乐的一天 If they had a good day, then it became a good day for me.
如果斯坦利那天不顺 那利昂也就会不顺 If it was a bad day for Stanley, it became a bad day for Leon,
然后我的日子也就不好过了 and that would be a bad day for me.
当然我也把他看做是一个对利昂索取很多的人 Of course I see a person who demanded a lot from Leon,
让利昂很难平衡自己的生活 And made life tricky for Leon to maybe balance.
总是在工作工作工作 不停工作 没有休息 He'd be working working working, and constantly working, not a break.
工作占据了他的全部时间 所以我和薇拉就玩自己的 And that would take all his time, so me and Vera would do other things.
他总是要么打电话 要么在复印机旁边 He would just be on the phone, or by the copy machine,
没个停 一直抽烟 nonstop nonstop nonstop, and smoking.
手里一支烟 旁边一杯茶 完全专注于工作 A cigarette and a cup of tea. And just be totally in the work.
有点卡夫卡式的噩梦压迫感 总是有成堆的做不完的事 It was kind of Kafkaesque I guess. Always piles of stuff to do that would never go away.
成堆的电影胶片要检查 给影碟店的货架布置啊 Piles of film reels footage to check, all these stands for the video stores and all that.
外语配音 翻译 字幕 成堆的海报也要检查色调 Dubbings, translations, and subtitles. Piles of posters to check, take color temperature of,
或者一大堆录像带 什么匈牙利语配音啊 老天 Or piles of VHS to check, Hungarian dubbing or whatever... Oof.
光想想我都觉得累 I get exhausted just thinking about those things actually.
在工作中利昂从没放松过 In a professional way, Leon never relaxed.
我记得有段时间他会穿戴整齐睡在鞋垫上 I know there were periods where he would stay dressed and sleep on the doormat.
这样就可以稍微睡两个小时 起来继续工作 So he could wake up two hours later and go back to work.
从来不让自己睡舒服 免得睡过头 Never been comfortable cuz then you might oversleep.
当你为一个彻底的完美主义者工作 When you're working for somebody who's such a perfectionist,
你就得一直前进前进前进 You just keep going, and going, and going.
直到你身体垮掉为止 I think until you literally fall over.
我记得有几次利昂也确实倒下了 And I think there's been times when it's got to a point where Leon has literally fallen over.
因为他觉得那个事业大于他个人 所以他一直继续 Because he felt it's bigger than him, so he'll keep going until he achieves
追求着尽可能的完美 Something close to impossibly beautiful or perfect.
那种成就感就这么鞭策你继续 It's something that just keeps driving you on,
简直像一种毒品 你必须要不断得到它 That you need to have it again, it's almost like a drug.
工作对于他来说比什么都重要 Nothing mattered to him as much as the work he's been doing.
其他一切都为工作让步了 Because that's overshadowed everything.
我觉得跟他聊个天都很困难 It'd be hard to have a single discussion I think,
尝试跟他交流吧 他的心思总是在别的地方 Try to communicate with someone who is still somewhere else in his mind.
我记得小时候会嫉妒 他总是有那么多精力放在别的人身上 I remember feeling jealous, that he always had the energy for other people.
一个小孩子看到他这样 我是没办法理解的 Being a kid and seeing that... I don't, I don't get that.
生日快乐 利昂
没有人会24小时工作 能做到或者愿意那样 No one works 24 hours a day, but if anybody could or would,
但利昂的工作基本上就是这么要求的 Leon's job pretty much encompassed that,
他也确实是一周七天随时待命 and he was certainly on tap 7 days a week.
我记得有一天 There was one day I remember,
斯坦利决定要改动《全金属外壳》的宣传文案 when Stanley decided we were gonna change The Full Metal Jacket campaign,
利昂只好一帧帧地找 and Leon had to go through frame by frame
在35毫米胶片上找出一个画面 Of 35mm film to pull the right frame
刚好能表达斯坦利想要的那种微妙感 that just reflected the nuance that Stanley was looking for.
那一天利昂身体上承受着巨大的痛苦 他牙齿里有个脓包 And on that day, Leon was in absolute pain, he had an abscess in his tooth.
他就时不时对着瓶子喝威士忌 And he was taking a swig out of a bottle of whiskey,
希望酒能减轻他的痛苦 To, hoping that the whiskey was going to sort of kill the pain.
《哈姆雷特》
斯特兰•斯卡斯加德
潘妮拉•奥古斯特
利昂知识渊博 不仅是电影制作方面 而且文学方面也是 Leon had a lot of knowledge, not only about filmmaking, but also about literature and everything.
斯特兰•斯卡斯加德
演员
《哈姆雷特》中与利昂合作
但同时他又像匹马 什么体力活都干 And at the same time he was a work horse. He'd do anything.
简直连木头都拉 I mean, he'll carry logs for you.
跟这种导演合作的时候 When you're working with these kind of directors,
就像连血液都是共享的 It's like you're sharing your blood with them.
潘妮拉•奥古斯特
演员
《哈姆雷特》中与利昂合作
尤其是合作密切的时候 像毒品的感觉 If you're on the inside, I think it could be like a drug.
电影工作者跟一般人是不太一样的 Film workers are slightly different than other people,
戏剧工作者也是 And that goes for theater workers too.
他们都是因为热爱而入行 工作时间长 经常都回不了家 They're usually there for the love, they work worst hours, they're usually not at home.
而且在剧组工作时 这些人会在几小时内就形成非常亲密的 And they do all this with a fantastic capacity of creating a functioning social unit
社交小圈子 感情很好 That is extremely intimate within hours.
记得有次我晚上去公司见我们的底片团队 他们当时在处理 I remember coming in at night and meeting the negative developing crew.
贝弗莉•伍德
德拉克斯娱乐
技术服务部执行副总裁
非常珍贵的底片 房间里完全没有光线 Precious negative. There's no light in the room,
他们完全靠感觉 和触觉 Everything you do is by feeling, by touch.
有一次胶片机坏了 胶片掉了出来 Once there was a break on a developer,
有个技师赶紧把掉出来的胶片缠满全身 And a guy basically wrapped himself in film, so that he could
迅速抽起来 再迅速泡回冲洗液里 就为了挽救那些胶片 Pull it over and quickly get it back into solution to save the film.
这个行业就是靠这样的人们建造起来的 I mean this industry has been built on people like that.
你需要做的付出不是在一个普通的级别 而是最高的级别 And you're not just doing it at this level, you're doing it at this level.
这些人就是行业里的尖子 You're doing, you're at the tip of the spear.
这个环境是非常令人陶醉和上瘾的 That is an absolutely intoxicating and addictive environment.
我并不是为创造力痴狂 它就是一个必需的要求 I don't have an obsession for creativity, it just is a necessary requirement.
我们这些人要么热爱创造 欲罢不能 You either love it so much you can't help it,
要么完全是个傻子 或者两种都占了 Or you're a fucking idiot, or you're a mixture of both.
-你也很痴迷于创造力吗 -不知道 我没想过 -Are you obsessive about creativity also? -I don't know, I don't think about it.
我是喜欢创作没错 工作很忙 不工作的时候 我就烹饪 I am creative, I work a lot, and when I'm not working, I'm cooking.
不烹饪的时候 我就做爱 都是需要创意的事情 When I'm not cooking, I'm fucking. It's all creative work.
在瑞典皇家戏剧院 我给一个非常优秀的瑞典导演做过几年助手 I worked as an assistant for a very very good Swedish director in the Royal Dramatic Theater for several years.
在他的舞台剧里演些小角色 主要干了很多副手的活 I did small roles in his plays and did a lot of assisted work.
我非常享受 And I loved it!
慢慢地 他的情绪就是你的情绪 他的想法就是你的想法 And after a while you feel how he feels, you think how he thinks.
你也学会用他的眼光去看这个世界 And you learn to see what's going on with his eyes.
对于一个助手来说是非常美妙的启示 And that's a fantastic revelation as an assistant.
这种经历的代入感非常强 This was an vicarious experience.
我通过别人的超凡才能 去感受各种事物 I'm experiencing something through somebody else's genius or whatever it is.
在工作时沉浸其中 不断学习 You go with it and you work with it, and then you learn from it.
跟上节奏 哪怕斯坦利突然说 我改主意了 And you get the hang of it. And then Stanley would suddenly say, "changed my mind".
要从头开始做起 对我来说又有什么区别？ You're starting all over again. What differences does it make to me?
我本来就是为他服务的 而他为他的电影服务 I'm at the service of him, because he's at the service of his movie.
关键是 我愿意 我想要跟在斯坦利身边 和他一起工作 And the thing was that, I wanted, I wanted to be with Stanley, work with Stanley.
忙前忙后 我就是愿意 Do all that stuff. I just wanted to.
他是二十世纪最伟大最杰出的电影人 He was the most brilliant, fantastic filmmaker of the 20th century,
我能为他工作 是有多么荣幸 嗯？在他身边那么多年 And how honored was I, to be able to work for him, hmm? For all those years.
我从很小的时候就注意到了 I've noticed for a very long time, since I was very young,
斯坦利对他的影响是多么强烈 That how, what kind of impact Stanley had on him.
还有他们关系的重要性 虽然我自己有时候不高兴 How important that was. Even though I didn't always like it,
但还是一直都知道 那是他的 怎么说呢 是他需要的东西 But kind of always known that, that was his, you know, that's what he needed as well.
我的父亲 我是很爱他的 My dad, who I loved, I loved him.
小时候他会弹钢琴 然后唱《美丽大海》给我听 He'd sit down at a piano, and used to sing La Mer to me.
非常美好的记忆 我站在旁边 他一边弹着唱着 一边看着我 It was just wonderful to stand there, and he'd be playing, but he'd be looking at me while he was singing it.
让人感觉 是专门为我唱的 You felt like oh, this is just for me.
不管他能否理解吧 那首歌很多年来都渗透在我的心里 And whether he understood or not, that song permeated me over many years.
留下很深刻的印记 到现在都还是 So deeply that it really became, and still is,
非常美的一首歌 我可以不厌其烦地反复听 One of those beautiful songs that I can hear over and over and over again.
第一次世界大战期间 我父亲还是个孩子 生活在比利时 During the First World War, when my father was a child and living in Belgium.
德国人去到了他家里 只有他和他妈妈在 The Germans had come to his house, there was just him and his mother there.
他爸爸是反入侵力量的一份子 And his father was part of the resistance to the German invasion,
他们是去找他的 And they had come looking for him.
他妈妈 也许是不知道 也许是不肯说 没有透露他的行踪 And his mother either couldn't or wouldn't say what she knew about where he was,
德国人把她拉到后院里枪毙了 They took her out into the backyard and they shot her,
逼我父亲看着整个过程 And made my father watch the incident.
他余生都一直是一个情绪非常不稳定的人 He was a very very volatile person for the rest of his life.
-那时家庭生活是什么样的？ -有时候挺爆炸性的 -So what was the household like? -It could be explosive at times.
利昂的兄弟姐妹
蒂姆•维塔利
-胆战心惊 在我印象中是这样的 -没错 -Fraught, I think as... -Yes. -As I remember it. -Yes
玛利亚•海沃德
克里斯•维塔利
是说父亲还在世的时候吗 那是啊 What, when father was alive? Oh yes.
再小的事情也会让他发脾气 You had to do just the slightest thing to get him to flip his tie.
我们就尽量避免有可能引来麻烦和批评的情况 I think we just tried not to put ourselves in the position which would engender any criticism.
那就是我们的生存之道 I think that's really what we tried to do.
尽量低调 不碍事 对吧？ Keep your heads down, and keep out of the way.
我八岁时他去世了 He died when I was eight.
我记得那天是一个美丽的夏日早晨 I remember it was a beautiful summer morning.
妈妈和哥哥在粉刷家里的走廊 这个让我觉得很有意思 And what was funny for me, my mother and my older brother were painting the hallway.
我靠近她 然后说"我听到…" 我话还没说完 她就打断了我 I went to her and I said "I heard...", and before I could say anything else, she just hushed me up.
然后我看着她的脸 这辈子从来没见过那么平和的一张脸 And I looked at her face, and I've never seen such a peaceful face in my life.
她说 "去你的房间吧 安静坐着 思考一下" And she said, "go into your bedroom and just sit down quietly, and think."
我一开始当然在想 以后我们再也不能跟他去电影院了 Of course I was thinking, well, we'll never go to the cinema with him again,
星期天早上再也不能跟他一起走去糖果店了 We'll never walk down to the sweet shop on the Sunday morning with him again;
继续想就发现 我也再也不会被他扇巴掌了 And then you also thought, well, I won't ever get slapped by him again,
再也不用眼看着他几乎把我大哥弄死 And I won't have to watch him trying to kill my oldest brother again.
我一边想着这些事 一边听到安静的家里 只有刷子和涂料的声音 And while I was thinking all these things, all I could hear was these paintbrushes going whoosh.
慢慢地我们一家人重建了生活 Bit by bit, we kind of rebuilt our lives.
当然了 我们一家是学校的校工 每天晚上都还是要干活的 But of course, we were caretakers of the school so it meant that we had a job to do every night.
跟斯坦利一起的时候 我也慢慢领悟到了 When it came to Stanley, you see, I kind of got it in a way.
想明白了我跟父亲的关系 I just understood from my experience with my dad.
就是要退后一步 这样你就不会被虐待到 You take a step back, so you weren't being abused.
保持着距离 不去对峙 不去回应 You just stood back, you didn't confront, didn't challenge.
就让他们自己发脾气去 发完了就没事了 You just let them blast their way out of whatever it was they had a problem with.
我觉得这就是我最感激斯坦利的事情 I think that's what I bless Stanley for, more than anything else is,
某种程度上他帮我了解了自己 He kinda helped me to understand who I am.
你既是在他手下为他工作 也和他并肩一起工作 The thing with Stanley was, you worked FOR him, but you also worked WITH him,
他在工作中给了我自主权 And he gave you that latitude.
重要的不是我想成为什么样的人 而是我本身是个什么样的人 It's not about what I wanna be anymore, it's about how I am.
华纳兄弟的老板有一次来伦敦出差 就在斯坦利去世前不久 You know, the head of Warner Brothers once said to me on a visit to London shortly before Stanley died.
他跟我说"他的制片成本那么低 真厉害" He said, "It's remarkable how low his production costs are."
我说 是啊 说真的那是因为他什么都会做 他是库布里克啊… And I said: "Well that's because quite frankly he does everything. He's Stanley Kubrick..."
他唯一不做的就是演戏 "The only thing he doesn't do is act."
其实他演过一次 有过一次表演 是给利昂演的 He acted once actually, he did do a performance once, for Leon.
晚上好 很抱歉不能到场和各位相聚一堂 Good evening, I'm sorry not to be able to be with you tonight,
斯坦利•库布里克
1998年美国导演工会奖获奖感言
接受这样崇高的荣誉 To receive this great honor.
工作人员带着提词卡来了 我负责拍摄 People came, they set up the cue cards, I had the camera.
一般来说 做提词卡的人会留下来操作提词卡 So, as usual, the guys who set up the cue card were gonna be there operating,
但斯坦利说 不不不 呃 还是请你离开吧 And Stanley said: "No no no, could you, could you go?"
我就只好一只手用摄像机 另一只手翻提词卡 So in the end I was operating the camera and having to operate the cue card at the same time.
我们拍了好几遍 And we did it again,
他要么说 哎呀 你翻提词卡翻得太快了 and it would be "man, you're moving it too fast, the cue card."
要么说 利昂你动作太慢了 Or "Leon you're moving it too slow".
拍好以后 他突然开始倒退着走 When he finished, he started walking backwards.
我就说 你这是闹哪出啊 And I said, "why are you doing that?"
他就一本正经地说 我就是 想来个正式的收尾啊 And he said: "Well, you know, kind of finishing it off you know."
我说 我觉得如果给镜头来个模糊淡出 这样会更好吧 I said: "I think it would be better really, if I just kind of put a big fade on the camera,"
就让你淡出画面 慢慢变成黑屏 "so that you weren't there anymore. It just went to black, you know."
听别人指挥挺折磨他的 It was quite torturous for him.
利昂和斯坦利给我的感觉就像是 I had a feeling that everything around Leon and Stanley
《大开眼戒》
玛丽•理查德森
《大开眼戒》中
饰 玛莉安
他们永远都处在电影制作的状态 Was a studio for um, filmmaking.
各种大小事情 都是做电影的视角 High and low, small details, big things...
就像是来到了一个创造研讨会 非常有创造力的氛围 It was like coming to a creative workshop. Very creative atmosphere.
试镜录像 斯坦利•库布里克作品《大开眼戒》
-开始了吗利昂 -嗯 -So, Leon? -Mmhmm.
有开始拍吗 哦 对你说过了 Have we been recording this? Oh you've been talking yeah.
-还有别的假发套吗 -有 -Have you any more wigs? -Yes.
我们多试几个 Let's try some.
你看上去瘦了啊 You look like you lost weight.
他们通知我来伦敦试镜 就是我 斯坦利和利昂三个人 They asked me to come to London, it was just me and Stanley and Leon in the room.
看这里 Look at me.
腿稍微站直一点 Just angle your legs a bit straighter.
-放松 你自在就行 但是换个姿势 -要走动吗 -Well any way you want, but not the way you were. -Just moving?
-你怎么样觉得自在就行 -哦… -Whatever you feel comfortable. -Oh...
-你没做过模特类工作是吧？ -没有 -You haven't been a model I see, huh? -No.
啊 这照片是《大开眼戒》的时候 我演红衣司仪 Oh these are from Eyes Wide Shut. When I was playing Red Cloak.
要化妆 收拾一下 For a bit of makeup, touch up.
虽然我不知道有什么用 我总是戴着面具哈哈哈 Although I never understood it, seeing I was wearing a mask.
-他告诉你让你演司仪 当时是什么感觉？ -啊呀 尴尬死了 -What was the feeling when he called you, the MC... -Oh, well, embarrassed.
我那会正在给司仪的角色做选角试镜 Because I was actually doing the screen test for the MC.
已经试了30多个演员了 I've seen about 30, 35 actors.
当时在试镜的是一个还蛮知名的演员 突然间电话来了 And I'm auditioning, it was a really well-known actor, and suddenly this phone call came through.
我一接起来 他就说 利昂 我决定了 你来演 So I picked up the phone, and he said, "Leon, I just decided, you're gonna play it."
然后就挂了 一句多余的都没有 And put the phone down. That was it.
请告诉我暗号 May I have the password, please.
我感觉每拍一条都可以给角色添色 I just felt that I could build on it for every take.
也不会担心自己太释放太夸张了 And you weren't afraid of going too far or going over the top.
可以继续探索 一直继续 就和拍《巴里•林登》时的感觉一模一样 You could just keep going, and keep going. Just like when I was working on Barry Lyndon.
我们每天都得处理这个 灯光的布置 This is what we had to do everyday, they were the lighting plans.
每天晚上我们都巡视一番 大概凌晨1点的时候 So we went around together, every night, like 1 a.m.,
记录所有灯的读数 and we would take the readings from the lights.
然后我就得把每盏灯详细的布置传真发给摄影指导 And then I had to send the fax to the DOP, with the laid out plan of every light.
但那不是摄影师自己该做的工作吗 But isn't that what the cinematographer supposed to do themselves?
是啊 但是斯坦利从来不放心别人 Yes, but you know, Stanley never trusted anybody.
他就是这样 He just didn't.
对很多人来说肯定很不好受 你想 他们都是行业顶尖 It must have been very difficult for people, you know, who are serious professionals,
要去承受那种 怎么说呢 说好听点是检查吧 Just to go through that kind of, I don't know, examination? For one of the better word.
而且他对自己想要什么有很明确的想法？ But he had this specific look that he want?
是的 而且一旦找到想要的就不想改了 Yeah he did, and he wanted to keep it, once he found it.
有一天利昂把我叫到一边 跟我说 On one of the days Leon pulled me aside and he said:
你知道吗 斯坦利只看了你一个人的试镜带 "You know, Stanley really only saw your tape."
我说 这样啊 谢谢你的鼓励利昂 很赞 And I was like, "Oh, thanks Leon, that's really cool."
他就说 不我说真的 我只给了他你一个人的试镜 He said, "No, really, yours is the only tape I put in."
然后斯坦利看了就说 很好 就这么定下来了 "So you know, Stanley looked at it and went, 'great'. And that's happened."
所以告诉你一声 你那天表现很棒 我就知道叫你来试镜没错 "So just letting you know, you were great on the day, and that's why I booked you."
特里瓦·艾蒂安
《大开眼戒》中
饰 停尸房护理工
你能入组我很高兴 "Really glad you're part of this."
我就说哇利昂 真的多谢了哥们 真的 And I said ah Leon, thank you man, this is really
听到你这么说真是很高的评价 that's a lot of high praise coming from you.
利昂永远在工作 都不睡的 我根本想不起来他什么时候睡过 Leon, he was always working, never sleeping. I don't know when he slept at all.
蒙面舞会那场戏 我要演8个不同的角色 包括红斗篷司仪 In the masked ball scene, I'm playing 8 different people, including the Red Cloak.
有时候拍完了一条 斯坦利会说 You know we'd finish a take, and Stanley'd say,
利昂 下去找我们两个星期前拍的那段 "Leon, go down and find the shot that we took like, two weeks ago."
我那会穿着一身的戏服 15厘米高的厚鞋子 长长的袍子 I was on these 6-inch high platforms and this full dress costume.
就得这么跑过一条走廊 因为他从来不愿意等 I had to run down this corridor, cuz it had to be "now, now",
然后在一堆场记板里找他想要的 And then I have to search through all these slates,
把菲林放到编辑台上 等他下来一起看 And put it up on the Steenbeck, and he'd come down and we'd look at it.
然后他说 很好 走 回去继续 And he said, "Great, now get back up there."
我就只好又跑回拍摄现场 大家继续之前的拍摄工作 So I'd be running back up to the set, and then we were up and running again.
最后那段时间斯坦利看上去就是这样 You know this is what Stanley grew to look like,
能看出来他的劳累 外界有些人说难听的话 and you could see he was kind of tired. I mean some people have said, unkindly,
说他失去才能了 但是我跟你说 That they thought he'd lost it. But I can tell you,
如果你也每天在他身边待着 就绝不会这么想 if you were there with him everyday, that was the last thing.
他和我 加上玛格丽特•亚当斯 他的协调员 He and I, and Margaret Adams, who was his coordinator,
玛格丽特•亚当斯
制片协调员
我们总是工作室里最后三个人 凌晨三四点的时候 We were the last people at the studio, and it would be 3 or 4 in the morning.
我们有一个固定的仪式 But there was a ritual which we always had,
收工以后 等所有人都离开工作室了 When it was a wrap, and when everyone left the studio,
他会进我办公室来 说我们谈一谈 He would come into my office and say, "let's have a talk".
然后我们讨论一下所有当天进行得顺利的事情 And then we talk about everything that had gone well that day,
谁很努力 谁不努力 然后要看头一天或者再前一天拍摄的画面 Who tried hard, who didn't. We're always looking at materials shot yesterday or the day before or whatever.
那会我们忙着拍新片 同时威尼斯电影节又宣布了 We were shooting, and at the same time, Venice Film Festival had announced that
要办一个表彰电影人斯坦利•库布里克的活动 they were going to celebrate the filmmaker Stanley Kubrick.
他们就需要他所有作品的片子 我就得在实验室里赶工出来 But they needed copies of all his films, so I was, having to crank those out the lab.
而且 我们那时在做《发条橙》新的中间底片 And at the same time, we were making a new internegative of Clockwork Orange.
再来 我还得做对白教练 选角 一大堆各种别的事 And at the same time, I was dialogue coaching, casting, and god knows what.
我感觉我简直要爆炸了 And I just thought I was gonna explode.
他也越来越疲劳 He was getting tireder, and tireder, and tireder.
有时候我们从诺福克一个拍摄地点收工开车回家 You know there were some days when we were driving home from this location in Norfolk,
他下车的时候 我就在担心 And when he got out the car, you kind of thought,
感觉他好像连大门都走不到 哪怕车就停在门口 He's not even gonna find the way to the front door, but we're parked right in front of it.
如果他弯下腰去捡地上的东西 If he bent down to the floor to pick something up,
那我就得弯腰把斯坦利"捡"起来 Then I had to bend down and pick Stanley up.
我觉得最后的那一周完全把他累垮了 I think that last week was totally exhausting for him.
那天是星期六下午 我要去超市 On the Saturday afternoon I went down to the supermarket.
有人打我电话 我接了 是斯坦利 My phone rang and I answered it, and it was Stanley.
我就站着 靠在我车上 我们说了两个半小时的话 I was standing, leaning up against my car, and we were talking for 2.5 hours.
感觉很怪异 纯粹是因为他就像我初次见到他时一样温和友好 It was eerie, simply because it was that same kind of gentleness as the very first day I met him.
他第一次说"你好利昂 我是斯坦利"的那种感觉 When he said, "Hello Leon, I'm Stanley".
整个对话都很理智 谨慎 而且温柔 Everything was rational, and measured, and gentle.
我们已经很长一段时间没有那么放松了 More relaxed than it had been for quite a while,
因为当时工作忙得四脚朝天 because you're in the middle of this mayhem.
但那次确实很放松 真的 But it was. It was.
那就是我最后一次跟他联系 That was the last contact I had with him,
然后星期天早上清晨 他就走了 And then of course, early hours of Sunday morning is when he died.
听别人说 看上去他是 I was told that it looked as if he had been
想要去够一个氧气瓶 在他卧室里 trying to reach for an oxygen bottle that he had in his bedroom.
斯坦利•库布里克去世 享年70岁… 充满争议的电影大师… Stanley Kubrick has died at the age of 70... Controversial master of cinema...
库布里克是电影界最伟大且最具争议的导演之一 于今日去世 Stanley Kubrick, one of film's greatest, yet most controversial, died today.
他的作品备受同行推崇 比如《2001:太空漫游》和《发条橙》 Kubrick was revered by peers for movies like 2001: A Space Odyssey, and A Clockwork Orange.
他前不久刚刚完成的《大开眼戒》将是大师最后遗作 He just finished what was to be his last film, Eyes Wide Shut.
华纳内部十分震惊 The studio was in shock for a while.
而且因为斯坦利他 还在为交货这件事收尾 And because Stanley, when he was making the film and getting it ready for delivery,
要把电影作为彻底完成的作品交给华纳 As a finished piece of work, as a finished film to the studio.
这事现在缺了一块 That part of it was now missing.
这么一来利昂•维塔利就成了整件事的关键人物 So there was Leon Vitali who was the key factor in all of this.
他自始至终都参与着片子的制作 He'd been through the process of making the film.
利昂他们几个人 我把他们叫做"库布里克马棚" Leon Vitali was probably the most important person from
其中利昂大概是最重要的 what I call "The Kubrick Stable".
那天在多塞特大酒店的一幕真的十分打动人 I have to tell you it was a very touching scene at the Dorset Hotel.
利昂站在那 双眼哭得通红 但是决心十足 There was Leon, eyes reddened with tears, but determined
面对着华纳董事会 华纳技术部总监 in the face of General Board of Company, the head of Warner Brothers Technical,
还有库布里克的小舅子 他下定决心要尽他所能 Stanley Kubrick's brother in law. Determined that he was going to do whatever he could,
（扬•哈兰 多次为库布里克执行制片）
按照斯坦利的设想 去完成《大开眼戒》 To finish Eyes Wide Shut, as Stanley would've wanted it.
这就是我对他最高的评价了 And that's the greatest compliment I can pay,
因为那不仅需要个人能力 还是个很艰巨的承诺 Because that speaks not of personal kudos, but of a commitment too.
这个你无比熟悉 一起相处了30年的人 The person that you know, you had this relationship with for 30 years,
朝夕相处 都牺牲了自己的生活 他现在不在了 Every single day, sacrificed your life, they're gone.
现在你得完成他最后的作品 And now you're left to do this last piece of their work.
同时又有这么多人 And then you're having a bunch of other people,
不把你放眼里不尊敬你 总是踩低你 Like not respecting you and treating you like shit about it.
当时很糟糕 是一段很糟糕的日子 It was bad. It was a bad time.
在那之前 他们那一套行事标准是可行的 It was easier to work and live by those standards and that code,
但现在作为一个助理就很难得到同样的待遇了 I think it was harder as an assistant to demand the same.
-很困难？ -是啊 -Wasn't easy? -No.
他还在世的时候 当然我们也有些事需要争取 但有他在 When he was alive, we fought the battles of course, we did. But he was there.
所有事都有他本人在发表意见 And everything was about him.
现在是所有其他人自认为 他有些什么想法 Now it was about what everybody thought he was about.
突然间冒出各种各样的人 I mean there were people just crawling out the woodwork,
来阻碍我们的工作 一副他们说了算的架子 Being as obstructive like they wanted to be the ones who were gonna
对我们的工作指手画脚 Now tell us how things were gonna be done.
所以我把他的照片贴在办公室墙上 And sort of sticking that picture up there in my office,
我有时候就可以看着照片 跟自己说 I could just look at that picture and I just thought:
这就是你的动力 "Well no, this is why you're doing it."
这张照片里的杂乱都还不足以形容当时的忙乱 Everything in this picture doesn't really even describe the rest of it.
因为那时候我得检查要发去每一个国家放映的菲林 Because at that time I was also checking every single transfer from every country in the world.
拿去美国放映的菲林 每五卷里就有一卷 1 in 5 prints that were shown in theaters in America,
是我从头到尾检查过的 Was checked from the first to the last reel.
当时光美国 我记得好像就有两千五百卷吧 I think there was something like 2,500 prints that came to America?
-你怎么病倒的？ -我来跟你说啊 -So how did you collapse? -I'm gonna tell you this,
但不是为了显得好像我很英雄什么的 And it's not to make myself a hero or anything like that.
我在实验室里连续忙了两阵 每次36小时 I did two 36-hour sessions in the screening room at the lab.
我时不时就得打个电话 跟他们说 And I had to make a call every now and then, to say:
"能不能来个人下来看着点胶片" "Could somebody come down here and keep their eye on the print?"
因为我要跑一边去呕吐 就有那么严重 Because I had to run off and throw up. I was so sick.
真得很难受 I was so sick.
我们其他人每天大概工作15到18个小时吧 Our working days were anything 15, 18 hours.
利昂真的是一天24小时一周7天 Leon was doing 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
-我不想说这个了 -我都不知道他有没有睡过 -I don't think I wanna talk about this. -I don't know when he ever slept.
华纳最后还是发售了多碟DVD套装 因为他们之前已经大力宣传过了 They had released the DVD set, because they'd done so much heavy advertising
实在是烂透了
广告就是踩着《大开眼戒》公映的时间点 Timed with the release of Eyes Wide Shut.
结果就有点灾难 有很多非常愤怒的反馈 It was a bit of a disaster, there was so much angry reaction to it, like:
别买这些DVD
"你们怎么可以这样草率处理大师作品？" "How could you just do this to a master's oeuvre?"
这是在利用库布里克之死！
千万别买
做格式转换不是那么简单的 When you do that, it's not a case of
不是说把菲林塞进个什么机器就能出来另一种格式 just sticking a piece of film into a machine and it comes out in a new format.
简单来说就是利用导演的死
整个过程都得重新做 必须得有像利昂那样对这些电影了如指掌的人 You have to do everything again, you have to have people like Leon, who knew the film backwards.
完全是耻辱！
我授权批准了完美重制和数字化的资金 I authorized incurring the cost for perfect mastering and digitization.
总裁沃伦•利伯法
下令重制
再次重制 并且是比录像带更高质量的格式 Remastered again, and in yet a higher quality format than it had been available in VHS.
毫无疑问 只有一个人能领头这个修复过程 Without a doubt, there was only one man that could have headed that restoration effort,
那就是利昂 And that was Leon.
像利昂这样 既对电影的制作过程有很棒的掌握 也熟悉发行过程 Someone like Leon, who had that wonderful grasp of the production process and the distribution process,
这是很罕见的 Which is quite a rare animal.
你得通过反复的工作和冲印去熟悉一卷菲林 You learn the film by working with it and printing it.
奈德•普莱斯
华纳兄弟
数字修复部副总裁
如果你冲印它15年了 你就会熟悉原始底片 You know? And if you've printed it for 15 years, you know the negative.
我并不熟悉 感觉非常棘手 And I didn't. It was that daunting.
他受的训练让他知道这电影听上去应该是什么样 He was trained in the way to know how it was supposed to sound,
要怎么处理那些音轨 知道看上去应该是什么样 Know what to do with the tracks, know how it's supposed to look,
要怎么处理底片 And know how to handle the negatives.
这些事只有他知道 And he was the only person who knew that.
他工作中这最后一部分 就是保存一切资料 This final part of his job was basically preserving everything,
确保一切状态良好 所有影像资料都安全地存好在保险库架子上 Making sure it was in good order, making sure it was all vaulted and securely on the shelves.
所以他收拾东西来了美国 So he packed up and he came to the US.
必须得有个制定标准的人来监管这个过程 Somebody has to be the standard bearer for that thought process,
克里斯•詹金斯
音效工程师
这就是利昂的作用 and this is where Leon comes in.
他承担起了这个艰巨的任务 让一切工作能够起步 Leon was tasked with this kind of Herculean effort to move the ball ahead,
还得承受那些骂声 有些人认为根本就不应该去碰这个事 And then take all the flack from the people who thought that this shouldn't be done at all.
利昂只好站在暴风雨中心去承受那些尖锐评论 And Leon was the person who was left standing there when all the knives came out.
而且斯坦利这么多年来得罪过的人 也没给他好日子过 And I know he took a huge amount of shit for what Stanley had done to people for many many years.
因为现在斯坦利不在了 Because Stanley wasn't around anymore.
然后库布里克帮的人 克里斯蒂亚娜和扬 华纳兄弟的那些人 And there was the Kubrick Gang, Christiane and Jan, the Warner Brothers people.
（库布里克的遗孀和她弟弟）
他们是出了名的不好打交道 不会听任何人的指挥 They were known for being tough, and not taking any bullshit from anybody,
按照自己的想法行事 因为他们有这个人在点头 And doing what they wanted to do because they had this guy approving it.
斯坦利是独一无二的 华纳自然不会说不 He was unique, so Warner wasn't gonna say no.
禁止通行
但评论家也不会说是 所以利昂就被夹在这中间 The critics weren't gonna say yes, and Leon was caught in this position in between,
不得不努力取悦所有人 Of having to be the guy that had to dress all parties.
我要处理一部电影时 需要了解它的制作过程 它的历史 When I'm working on a film, I need to learn the production history of the film, the archeology.
需要知道它是如何制作出来的 And you have to know how it was made,
一旦掌握了这些 就好像菲林在跟你说话一样 and when you got it, it's that the film speaks to you.
光是重现斯坦利原本做出来的效果 就花了两三年的时间 Just to recreate what Stanley had done originally took two to three years,
去查资料 找大师 研究并证明原本的影片是个什么样 Of research, and finding masters, and go in and proving that that was exactly what it was.
然后才可以开始数字化的工作 And then you could start to do your work.
《巴里•林登》有很多特别长的镜头 Barry Lyndon, it's a lot of long long long shots,
珍妮特•威尔森
华纳兄弟
调色师
而且经常是室外的 风景啊 建筑外观 And often it's outside, often they're landscape, exteriors.
利昂总是知道画面应该有多亮 对比应该有多强 Leon always knew how bright it was supposed to be, how contrasted it was supposed to be,
色彩应该多浓或者饱满 How rich or how dense.
你跟他共事就会意识到 他的才能有多广 And you realize as you work with him, that his skills are enormous.
终于完成以后你就发现其实要做的事还有很多 And then you finish it and you realized that it's not really finished at all.
因为后来利昂必须搬进华纳兄弟 Because Leon then had the task of moving into Warner Brothers,
只剩他一个人了 一个人去争取更多的格式转换 Where he was the only person who was left, and fighting for another transfer to be done,
争取保证影片本身的样子得以保存 Or something to be kept up in a certain way.
突然间他就像是与全世界为敌 All of a sudden it's Leon against the world.
他被一点一点消磨着 And they were just grinding him down,
在这个过程中华纳展现出的善意和支持已经比其他任何人都多了 Because Warner had exuded good will way beyond what anybody would've done in going through the process.
那会很多人跟我说 I got, you know, people calling me and saying,
你知道外界怎么说你吗 说你是在找麻烦 "You know what they're saying about you right now, is that you're looking for problems."
不 我们不是在找麻烦 No, we're not looking for problems.
从来没有去找麻烦 We were never looking for problems.
但如果问题确实存在 就得指出来 But if there were problems, you have to point them out.
必须的 就从荣誉上来说 必须指出来 说"这里不对" You have to. I mean in all honor, you have to say,"This isn't right".
他越来越消瘦 越来越病弱 So he started getting thinner and thinner, and sicker and sicker.
他那时看上去很憔悴 而且害怕 He looked very gaunt and a bit scared.
有段时间我才30公斤重 I weighed in, at one point, 65 pounds.
这是我不太好的时候写的自我肯定 This is when I wasn't very well, and it was my affirmation.
"我是利昂•维塔利 我在治疗自己" "I'm Leon Vitali, I'm healing myself."
他在工作中总是全身心投入 百分之百 甚至更多 He was always present for the work, 100%, more.
他就像是 很多人这么叫他 是只蟑螂 But he's, you know everybody says, he's like a cockroach.
不太好听 但他就是不会被任何事阻碍 一直前进 Not a great term, but there's nothing that will stop him, just keeps going.
后来他们把他的办公室给了别人 Eventually they gave his office away
给他在华纳兄弟的走廊里放了个办公桌 and they gave him a desk in the hallway of Warner Brothers.
他就这么一个人坐在那 继续整理所有的档案 And he was sitting there alone, still going through all the files,
确保事情有人做 有进展 making sure all the things were done.
如果有人想放映《2001:太空漫游》 就得他出面去做 And if somebody wanted to screen 2001, he had to be there for that.
不会有其他人能做到那种程度的痴狂细节 No one else was gonna follow through with the level of maniacal detail,
只有斯坦利或者利昂可以 That only Stanley, or only Leon could've done.
成果就在作品里 And it shows in the work.
这些现在仍然保存着的大作 没有那些努力是不会存在的 It's this body of work that exists today, that never would have existed.
是因为利昂在斯坦利身边付出了那么多年的劳动 才保留下来 Because Leon took the sweat equity of all those years with Stanley.
利昂纠正了所有之前版本的过失 Leon righted every single wrong that was done.
他把这些电影保存了下来 以后的一代代人 He basically preserved the process so that for future generations
当他们看到斯坦利的作品 that would get to see Stanley's work,
能看到大师做出来的本来的样子 They would see it the way the master made them.
这永远都会是利昂在斯坦利•库布里克的遗产里留下的印记 That will always be Leon's imprint on Stanley Kubrick's legacy.
加州洛杉矶市正在举办一个展览… Right now in Los Angeles, California there is an exhibit...
导演斯坦利•库布里克… Director Stanley Kubrick...
加州 洛杉矶市
那个展览开办了 搞了盛大的开幕式 全球巡展 And then the exhibit comes about, and there's this big opening, a world tour,
结果利昂并没有参与其中 And Leon kind of not really a part of it.
我感觉利昂被彻底忽视了 请了那么多库布里克专家 I felt like Leon was really dismissed. All these like "experts" on Stanley,
在那聊斯坦利 细数他是个怎样的人 Talking about Stanley, and what he was like.
但是有这么个人 站在角落里 这么多年来他都站在角落里 There was this person, still standing in the corner, how he always would be,
和斯坦利在表演 电影制作 所有方面合作了那么多年 Who's worked with him from acting, from cinematography, everything.
却好像他不存在一样 And meanwhile it was like Leon didn't exist.
那个开幕式 整个过程 你有参与其中吗？ I guess the opening, or the presentation? Were you part of that?
从举办方的正式角度吗？完全没有 You mean in a kind of official matter? No not at all.
那个大型晚会 很多人去讲了关于斯坦利的事情… The actual big gala thing where people came and spoke about Stanley...
不 不 我没去那个 Oh no no, no I didn't go to that.
-没去吗 -没有 -You didn't go to that? -No.
是你自己选择不去还是说他们没邀请你？ Was that like a choice by you or they just didn't invite you or?
没邀请我去啊 No they just didn't invite me.
利昂完全有权利说 这个展览太差劲了 我不想和它扯上关系 Leon had every right to say, that exhibit stinks, and I want nothing to do with it,
但是完全相反 他说"你想去啊？我可以带你去" Just the opposite. He said, "You wanna go? I'm gonna take you."
后来我有个朋友也想去 When another friend of mine wanted to go,
利昂就说"我很乐意带你们再去一次" Leon said: "I'd gladly take you guys again."
看到詹姆斯•L•布鲁克斯这么优秀的电影人像孩子一样在问问题 And to see a great filmmaker like James L. Brooks asking questions like a kid,
（《辛普森一家》编剧）
让一个如此熟悉幕后的人带着走在库布里克的世界里 To walk through these worlds with a guy who knows them intimately,
真的太棒了 他真的很大度友善 It's just incredible. And he's so generous about it.
我问他能不能带一群学电影和视觉艺术的高中生去看展 When I asked Leon to take a bunch of high school film and visual arts students,
他二话不说就答应了 我挺吃惊的 He said yes like this. I was shocked.
那次经历真的很好 能够跟人分享也让他精神振奋 It was so amazing. It lifted his spirit to be able to share.
我记得最近一次学院会议上 I remember at the recent Academy meeting,
他们在聊应该跟哪些人做个口述回忆录 They were talking about people that they needed to have an oral history with.
美国影艺学院
我就说 我不懂你们怎么还没有跟利昂•维塔利做口述回忆录 And I said, well I don't understand why you guys haven't done an oral history on Leon Vitali.
早就该做的 And I said, "you should have done it a long time ago,"
筹备库布里克展览的时候就该做 "when you were preparing the Stanley Kubrick exhibit."
我听说他帮忙带别人去看展都带了差不多30次 I found out that he went 25 or 30 times with people, as favors to people.
让更多人接触到大师的世界 Just to give them that same gift.
我对那里很多展品都有非常深的情感和依恋 There was such a kind of emotional attachment to so much of that material.
会让我想起 啊我还记得拍那个场景的时候 我在忙这个那个 I could actually say, "Well I remember when I was doing that, working on that."
每样东西对于我来说都有故事 There was a story about, just about every bit of it.
光是各种镜头我都看了几个小时 I spent hours just looking at lenses.
比起他去世的时候 我感觉看展的过程更像是在和他告别 It felt more like I was saying goodbye to him this time than when he died.
对白源自《闪灵》
有些地方就像人一样 You know some places are like people.
有的会"闪" 有的不会 Some shine and, some don't.
这里有坏东西吗？ Is there something bad here?
对于利昂来说 他不仅失去导师 要独自面对生活 And for Leon, not only did he have to face life without his mentor,
他还搬到了洛杉矶 一开始是为了监督数字修复 He also moved to Los Angeles, initially to work for the estate on the restoration.
后来他决定留在洛杉矶 But then he made the decision to stay in Los Angeles,
然后突然发现这里有各种不低的门槛 And suddenly found that doors are not easily opened.
听见了吗 不准进去！ You understand? Stay out!
有段时间我不得不资助他 I had to help him for a while, financially.
想想有点让人难过 因为他辛苦工作了那么久 And I guess that's kind of sad, because he's worked so much.
按理说应该是可以照顾好自己的 他的生活方式也很简朴 You would hope that he would have enough to survive, the pretty simple lifestyle he lives you know.
挺好 最后那三条都挺好的 我觉得最后两条最好 Good, the last three were going good, I think the last two were better.
斯坦利有很厉害的精力 Stanley had an amazing vital energy.
我那时也有权力去任何区域 忙我自己的 I had the license to go into any area and operate inside.
但是到了这里当然行不通 因为处境不同 时过境迁了 But of course you can't do that here, because it's quite heavily demotated.
-你还在为斯坦利工作吗 -当然了 -Are you still working for Stanley? -Of course.
-现在的工作是志愿性质的了 -这是因为我爱斯坦利 -So this is all voluntarily at that point. -This is because I love Stanley.
这就是我为什么去做 因为我爱他 That's why I do it. Because I love him.
-你也没工资拿？ -没有 那又怎样？ -You're not even getting paid? -No, so?
利昂代表了这个行业里许许多多的人 Leon is one person of many that are like him in the business,
我觉得他是一个非常杰出的例子 I think he's an extraordinary example of it.
他代表着这群人里的顶尖 And I think he represents the best of that group of people,
他们的付出不为人知 Who were unrecognized for doing what they're doing.
一个普通的助手 你圣诞节送他个礼物 就可以算是肯定他的工作了 You give your assistant a gift at Christmas time, and that's their recognition.
但如果一个人25年来为你付出了一切 But that person was crushing it for you for 25 years,
要怎么样去肯定他 才配得上他所做的一切？ How do you acknowledge them in a way that celebrates what they've done?
电影就是这么令人着迷 它需要你不知疲倦地投入 Film is just such a fascinating thing, it requires tireless effort.
它是一辆前进的火车 途中不停有人上车下车 It is a moving train of people getting on and off at a process,
但它始终会有足够的燃料 继续向目的地行驶 But having the train with enough fuel to continue to make it to the destination.
这是个非常特别的世界 有点像个马戏团什么的 It's a very special world, it's like the circus or whatever.
在电影世界的魅力面前 你自己作品的创意就显得比较渺小 Those worlds are, they have an attraction that goes beyond how creative your own work is.
但同时你又是它的一部分 不管你是什么肤色 什么性取向等等 But you're a part of it. What skin color you had, what sexual preferences you had...
这里总有你的一席之地 只要你懂得合作 能融入其中 It has always been a place to go to, as long as you function socially.
特别自恋或者脾气大的人是很难在这个行业里生存的 Anybody who's self-obsessed or grumpy won't survive in the business.
除非他是个演员 Unless he's an actor.
保持位置 我们准备好了 准备开拍 Stay there now, we're ready, getting ready to shoot.
你还好吗？ Are you ok?
利昂辛苦付出了那么多年 差点累死在编辑台上 Leon spent years of his life, almost drove himself into an early grave,
就是因为那些胶片必须得尽量完美 Because the prints needed to be as good as they possibly could.
所有这些人 哪怕少了一个 All those other people, if you took out one person,
电影里就会少点什么东西 There'd be something missing in that film.
这些就是一大群利昂 This is like all a bunch of Leons.
就是这些字幕里后出现的人 他们的努力把先出现的人抬高到舞台上 All these people below the line are the ones that elevate the people above the line.
利昂能坚持下来 跟在大师身边那么多年 挺令人赞叹的 It was amazing that Leon got to stick around and stay with the maestro, as we call it.
那么久 他们两个都合作无间 形影不离 And they were inseparable for the longest time.
我最近梦到他的次数越来越多了 I've been dreaming about him more and more and more.
梦里总是在一座属于我的房子里 It's always in a house that I have,
屋里挤满了我不认识的人 And it's always full of people most of which I do not know.
我们准备要开拍一个新项目 And we're starting a film production,
梦里我们两个之间感觉已经没有言语交流的必要了 And it's like there's no kind of feeling that we need to communicate at all.
只是看着对方 点点头 We're just looking at each other and nodding our heads,
"开始吧" And saying: "That's it."
如果你回顾自己的童年 If you look back on your life when you were a child,
儿时的自己有各种愿景和梦想 and you had aspirations and you had ambitions,
但那些梦想并没有照你设想的样子去实现 But they never really worked out the way you thought they would.
你确实有理由感到非常沮丧或是生气 So there's a lot that can make you extremely frustrated and extremely mad.
但同时这也非常令人振奋 But at the same time it's kind of exhilarating.
因为从很多角度来说 In many ways,
人生有没有照你的设想去展开 这并不重要 哪怕跟你想的完全不一样 it doesn't really matter if things work out exactly the way you wanted them to, or they didn't.
最重要的是旅程 The most important thing is the journey.
因为一路走来的经历是那么丰富 那么宝贵 Because the experiences can be so rich, and so valuable to you.
利昂有一种气场 好像门还没开你就能感觉到他在门前了 Leon was a spirit. You could see the door's open before he got to a door.
他周身有一种库布里克式的气息 He has this aura of Kubricknism around him.
这个学徒一下子 突然成为了拥有所有答案的大师 The apprentice that all of a sudden, one day became the master with all the answers.
-你对自己的旅程感到骄傲和满足吗 -是啊 当然了 -You're proud and you're happy of your journey? -Yeah, yeah of course.
当然 一路走来都很美妙 Of course I am. It's been amazing so far.
我能想到最好的 怎么说 人生结局吧 The best way I could think of, you know, leaving this world, and it would be,
要么睡下去 不醒来 或者忙着工作的时候… Either,you know, go to sleep not wake up, or be in the middle of, you know...
比如说在施滕贝克编辑台前死掉 如果现在还能找到一台老古董的话 I don't know, I guess dying on a flatbed Steenbeck, I mean if you could find one nowadays.
比如在转换编辑室里 Maybe in a telecine suite,
做一个新版本转换 《2001:太空漫游》的4K或者8K版本 doing a new transfer, like a 4K or a 8K transfer of 2001.
片尾音乐响起的时候 And just as the music plays out,
我就说 我来了 我去见查拉图斯特拉了 I say, "I'm coming. I'm with ya Zarathustra."
是吧 也许像那样 挺浪漫的 You know, maybe something like that. Romantic. you know.
画上完美句号 That's the cake.
-所以是个快乐的结局？ -是啊 当然是了 -So it's a happy ending? -Sure, yeah, of course it is.
我曾侍候过库布里克
自本片拍摄完成后 利昂•维塔利 开始为库布里克府邸担任顾问 并监督《2001:太空漫游》的数字4K版制作
同时他也在建造一个全面档案馆 记录斯坦利•库布里克的各种电影元素
-谢谢观赏-
谨以此片缅怀
史蒂夫•索斯盖特
1950 - 2016
我曾侍候过库布里克